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Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
Shouldn't the level 54 Elite champions at least promote to AAA instead of AA. Seems like the truly badass teams should have an opportunity to bypass the mediocrity that will be AA.(again--at least)

Teams like Saigon and NBA Jam could have easily made that jump, forcing an AA-AAA-Pro promotion on them just wastes good dots plateaus.

Hey look, a post related to the OP that isn't about the WL (which clearly isn't going anywhere in S17).

Originally posted by beenlurken
I think we should rename the 8 regional Pro leagues to Elite Pro (ie USA Elite Pro, Africa Elite Pro, etc)... then change AAA and AA (within this new scheme) to Competitive Pro and Pro... then having the 54 capped leagues feed into this system.

People are concerned about their dots not reaching a "Pro" level. Renaming AAA and AA gives that sense of accomplishment that your player reach an end-game status (AAA and AA do not provide this).

Here is something else that is relevant to the OP.

Originally posted by beenlurken
Just from a cursory look... I would like to see more than 4 Pro teams (what we have now) demote from a given region at seasons end. Maybe something like bottom 2 in each conference drop to AA and 13/14 drop to AAA.

Another post relevant to the OP

they have already said the original post is what is going to happen--no hope for making world and pro leagues smaller. Every year top teams fall off or merge and weaker teams are brought in--more watered down each season--my mom could win in AAA

Originally posted by Outlaw Dogs
Originally posted by ImTheScientist


That would be even better and even more fun. The more teams you can involve at the highest lvl the more fun people have. The WL is not fun. Its only fun for maybe 2 or 3 teams every year. The rest have no shot, lose, and many gut and stop playing for the season.

If these teams are in Pro they have fun, increase the Pro forum activity, you play w/ the teams you "grew up with", and more people "feel" they have a shot at winning it all....which is important.

Lastly, the WL has killed more good teams than it has helped...thats a fact. Mergers, gutting, people losing interest all together, and cheating to compete at that lvl. Only 1% even get to see the top of the pyramid. If the WL didn't exist many more teams see the top of the pyramid which is the Pro level and more people are happy and willing to fight it out.





No WL +1

Originally posted by beenlurken
Originally posted by beenlurken
Again... Decline has been killing good teams

You guys quickly forget that we had 11 seasons of the same players where teams could indefinitely remain competitive. You guys forget how dots gravitated to certain regions (weakening other regions) so they could get the "WL type" experience.

The WL has done a lot so far to increase the regional parity. The reason the Pro Leagues suck right now is because there is not enough end game dots to support them... as well as the fact that we continue to allow teams that have gutted and/or rebuilt to stay at the Pro level so long as they can beat the others that have done such (we really need to demote 8 teams out of the Pro leagues... 4 from each conference).

Originally posted by beenlurken

Merging, colluding, cheating, gutting, loss of interest was already happening before the WL. The harsh position decline put teams in only made it worse. There would have been less (or the same as before WL) had teams not struggled to manage decline.
+1

Originally posted by ImTheScientist



That would be even better and even more fun. The more teams you can involve at the highest lvl the more fun people have. The WL is not fun. Its only fun for maybe 2 or 3 teams every year. The rest have no shot, lose, and many gut and stop playing for the season.

If these teams are in Pro they have fun, increase the Pro forum activity, you play w/ the teams you "grew up with", and more people "feel" they have a shot at winning it all....which is important.

Lastly, the WL has killed more good teams than it has helped...thats a fact. Mergers, gutting, people losing interest all together, and cheating to compete at that lvl. Only 1% even get to see the top of the pyramid. If the WL didn't exist many more teams see the top of the pyramid which is the Pro level and more people are happy and willing to fight it out.





+1

Remove WL, Go back to Pro Leagues, and get rid of the minor league cloud system (going back to the old system for advancing couldn't hurt)

Originally posted by inurbase
Remove WL, Go back to Pro Leagues, and get rid of the minor league cloud system (going back to the old system for advancing couldn't hurt)

So, make things even worse? Yeah, that would be GREAT. Let's shoot ourselves on BOTH feet, while we're at it.

The WL keeps the elite teams at the top an gives teams in the pro leagues a chance to develop and win. If you remove the WL, then you will just have a WL pro league. It wouldn't really change anything with the new league structure next season.

AA is crap, I'm glad you are going to do some restructuring. Now if you can stop censoring obvious problems:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4145763