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Ive just read through 19 pages and everything tells me there's not going to be any changes to the Minors?

Originally posted by Thomkatt52

Originally posted by amace
This still does not address dispairity in the league. I have a simple solution, just hear me out.

What needs to be done, is teams go to the minimum cap they qualify for.

What this does, it makes the game about the best gameplans and builds. Isn't that what footbal lshoudl be about? Not exploiting the system. Its about quality players and quality gameplans.

How do you qualify?
The highest level player on your team determines what cap you fit in.

If you whole team except one player is level 14, and the one player is 15, you do not qualify for cap 14.


At the end of each season, teams only move if they don't qualify for that cap anymore.(with the exception of any uncapped league)

What does that mean?
It means if you win cap 14 with all level 13 players somehow, you have the option to stay in 14, or request a promotion.

If you lose cap 14, but have level 23 players, you move to cap 28, or you cut any players over level 22 and go to cap 22.



There will be complaints, as yes, sometimes league champions MIGHT stay in the same league, if they do, that means they are just in a terrible league. As you should normally not be able to win a lower minor league championship with all players under the level cap.

Players over move up.


The benefits? It really matches up who is Better at the game. Isn't that what the game is about? Its not about blowing two seasons so you have level 30's in cap 18. Its about recruiting good dots and coming up with good gameplans.

Re-aligning the leagues will work in theory, but after a few seasons we'll ahve the same mess we've always had.

PLEASE, just take the time and do it right. Changing a few caps and forced promotion methods won't fix anything in the long run, just cause more problems later on.

I can't see how my suggestion will fail. There will be no more super-powerful teams in low caps. There will be no low level teams in high caps. The only disparity will be the difference in quality between coordinators and players, which is what Football should be about.

You don't see high school teams mixed in with the NFL, yet a similar thing constantly happens in almost all GLB leagues. A middle of the road team can blow out a bad team 255-0, while at the same time, get blown out by a top team in the league 255-0


*edit.

Some people might say that the caps should be effective level. I'm not sure that will help, but its for another discussion. The same format I suggested can be implemented either way.

Quite a few people (including myself) thought this was how the CAP system would be implemented, and enforced to begin with. I guess it was too simple to expect it to be followed. If your (or my) level 28 player needs to be in a cap 22, or 26 league to be competitive that's too bad.
Why call it a cap 26 league if you have teams with a roster that includes level 30 players? Don't tell me it's to be competitive, cause it's not working. As stated many times, teams are throwing games at the halfway point to be "competitive" the next season. Avoiding the playoffs does the trick.



Thanks, this seems to have gotten a fair bit of support in this thread. Why not take it, iron out any potential flaws (I'm sure its not perfect), take your time and actually make a good change, rather than constantly making band-aid fixes.

You can debate about promotions by effective level or regular level, I personally don't think effective level will help in the minors. You'll have guys with shit builds and high effective levels vs. guys with lots of SA's, built for capped leagues.

Originally posted by an_old_dude
Ive just read through 19 pages and everything tells me there's not going to be any changes to the Minors?

Yeah, it is utterly ridiculous. As usual, all we hear about is the WL and the Pros, but for the VAST majority of the people playing GLB the solution to the biggest problem facing the game is ....NOTHING!

And we are told that Bort was so busy coming up with this that he did not have time to finish coaches

Seriously, admins, you still have time but you have to come up with something better than this.

BTW I agree with a lot that amace has to say - I also thought that a cap meant a cap - silly me! I would use effective level however.

Originally posted by ryanshaw
And we are told that Bort was so busy coming up with this that he did not have time to finish coaches



if he doesn't have time in 2 seasons to create a HOF poll then he definitely doesn't have time for coaches

I love to win games, but not so much when its the 100+ to 0 blowout games. I was really excited about league structure being worked on so we could have real games next season. I don't know what's worse, that CPU teams are making it to our playoffs, or that they actually won the game.

Originally posted by ryanshaw
Yeah, it is utterly ridiculous. As usual, all we hear about is the WL and the Pros, but for the VAST majority of the people playing GLB the solution to the biggest problem facing the game is ....NOTHING!


No kidding too. I am sick of tailoring everything to the WL just to have the bottom half of the game be a broken disaster of a sim.

Bort? DD? Catch?

Throw us a freakin bone already.

Originally posted by ImTheScientist
Originally posted by Outlaw Dogs

Originally posted by ImTheScientist



That would be even better and even more fun. The more teams you can involve at the highest lvl the more fun people have. The WL is not fun. Its only fun for maybe 2 or 3 teams every year. The rest have no shot, lose, and many gut and stop playing for the season.

If these teams are in Pro they have fun, increase the Pro forum activity, you play w/ the teams you "grew up with", and more people "feel" they have a shot at winning it all....which is important.

Lastly, the WL has killed more good teams than it has helped...thats a fact. Mergers, gutting, people losing interest all together, and cheating to compete at that lvl. Only 1% even get to see the top of the pyramid. If the WL didn't exist many more teams see the top of the pyramid which is the Pro level and more people are happy and willing to fight it out.







Here is one the top owners in WL telling you shit is broken in WL and yet the admins simply do not want to listen.

Originally posted by CoachMauler
Here is one the top owners in WL telling you shit is broken in WL and yet the admins simply do not want to listen.

what are you talking about?

Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
what are you talking about?

Proposed League Structure Changes

Originally posted by CoachMauler

Here is one the top owners in WL telling you shit is broken in WL and yet the admins simply do not want to listen.

Tbh buddy, ITS has flip flopped on the WL more times than one can imagine so he shouldn't be the poster boy for change.

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Originally posted by CoachMauler


Here is one the top owners in WL telling you shit is broken in WL and yet the admins simply do not want to listen.

Tbh buddy, ITS has flip flopped on the WL more times than one can imagine so he shouldn't be the poster boy for change.



I remember when ITS cried out demanding a WL.

Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
what are you talking about?

You left out the expletive.

Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
what are you talking about?

I quoted ITS. Not sure what else you want me to do.