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I hate this idea. It takes away from the battle of the builds and artificially favors one side of it.
 
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NFL schedules are balanced with home & homes versus divisional opponents, but with locations being allocated randomly in GLB this could create significant advantages for some teams over others depending on who they get scheduled home versus away. I'd rather not see that be the deciding factor in who finishes 8th or 9th.
 
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Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by mcneebs

Originally posted by Deathblade


I think it just adds a completely unneeded, uncontrollable advantage to a team.


DB you've got to admit, home field advantage is a real boost IRL, regardless if it's high school hoops, NFL, or playing halo with your buddies. When it's on your turf, you get more pumped about it.


That doesn't make it a good game mechanic.

Your wife cheating on you with your coach might make you play worse as well, doesn't mean that we need to add it to the game and it is a good idea.



We didn't need to add a +X bonus to speed for wearing a visor or eye black on your helmet either. Your example is a 1/1000000 random thought that affects one person. Homefield advantage is active for every athletic team in the WORLD, down to freshman basketball in high school and it somehow is completely ignored here.
 
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Originally posted by piscapoe
We didn't need to add a +X bonus to speed for wearing a visor or eye black on your helmet either. Your example is a 1/1000000 random thought that affects one person. Homefield advantage is active for every athletic team in the WORLD, down to freshman basketball in high school and it somehow is completely ignored here.


So how about this...instead of home field advantage, we have a "magic coin flip". Who ever wins the magic coin flip for any particular game gets a +5% boost to all stats.

From a game mechanic standpoint, there is basically zero difference in the two. Besides the name of it.
 
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Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by mcneebs

Originally posted by Deathblade


I think it just adds a completely unneeded, uncontrollable advantage to a team.


DB you've got to admit, home field advantage is a real boost IRL, regardless if it's high school hoops, NFL, or playing halo with your buddies. When it's on your turf, you get more pumped about it.


That doesn't make it a good game mechanic.

Your wife cheating on you with your coach might make you play worse as well, doesn't mean that we need to add it to the game and it is a good idea.


Sorry man, but that's apples and oranges. You can't draw a line between an unfaithful wife and a proven performance boost when playing at home. If you were to add a +/- "personal life" morale roll before each game, I'd actually be down for it. That however, is completely off topic and is another suggestion altogether.

Home field advantage does provide many advantages, which show up on the W/L records of almost all teams in all spectator sports. It's an easy to implement factor that would make the home games a little more welcoming, and the away games a tad more intimidating, just as it would be in real life.

That's why I think it would be a good game mechanic, and a good idea.
 
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Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by piscapoe

We didn't need to add a +X bonus to speed for wearing a visor or eye black on your helmet either. Your example is a 1/1000000 random thought that affects one person. Homefield advantage is active for every athletic team in the WORLD, down to freshman basketball in high school and it somehow is completely ignored here.


So how about this...instead of home field advantage, we have a "magic coin flip". Who ever wins the magic coin flip for any particular game gets a +5% boost to all stats.

From a game mechanic standpoint, there is basically zero difference in the two. Besides the name of it.




Hey, Isn't that what we call endorsements right now?

Almost everything in GLB is basically a magic coin flip with a few key variables driving the favor one way or another. Same with HFA....it can be standard or it can start out small and based on stadium size and maybe key stadium upgrades down the road, it starts to swing in your favor.
 
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Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by piscapoe

We didn't need to add a +X bonus to speed for wearing a visor or eye black on your helmet either. Your example is a 1/1000000 random thought that affects one person. Homefield advantage is active for every athletic team in the WORLD, down to freshman basketball in high school and it somehow is completely ignored here.


So how about this...instead of home field advantage, we have a "magic coin flip". Who ever wins the magic coin flip for any particular game gets a +5% boost to all stats.

From a game mechanic standpoint, there is basically zero difference in the two. Besides the name of it.


This should just effect in game morale and confidence.
 
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Originally posted by pedro617

This should just effect in game morale and confidence.


+1
 
DL24
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Why? Why should this affect anything? The best team should win, it shouldn't matter if they dot fans are screaming at them or not. The dots shouldn't pay attention. This will only make great teams even tougher to beat, and it makes no sense. You should have an equal chance of winning no matter what, not based on random scheduling. Besides, teams already have enough of a homefield advantage because they earn millions of dollars more for playing at home and selling out.
 
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Originally posted by AlwaysAnEagle
Theres a VA for it.


This too. The VA is more than enough of an advantage, regardless of your NFL reasoning. GLB isn't the NFL, and they don't want to be. So all teams should have an equal chance to win.
 
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Originally posted by DL24
Why? Why should this affect anything? The best team should win, it shouldn't matter if they dot fans are screaming at them or not. The dots shouldn't pay attention. This will only make great teams even tougher to beat, and it makes no sense. You should have an equal chance of winning no matter what, not based on random scheduling. Besides, teams already have enough of a homefield advantage because they earn millions of dollars more for playing at home and selling out.


The only real differnce is income is in the playoffs. If 2 teams are created the same season and both manage thier finances well the only difference will be who does better in the playoffs.

 
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Originally posted by DL24
Why? Why should this affect anything? The best team should win, it shouldn't matter if they dot fans are screaming at them or not. The dots shouldn't pay attention. This will only make great teams even tougher to beat, and it makes no sense. You should have an equal chance of winning no matter what, not based on random scheduling. Besides, teams already have enough of a homefield advantage because they earn millions of dollars more for playing at home and selling out.


Have you ever played football? Or have you ever been to an NFL game? Thousands of screaming fans make a huge difference, if "the best team" always won, then the pats would have numerous 16-0 seasons already. Doesn't happen though. The Dolphins were making it a habit a while back to beat the Pats in Miami, keeping their record to 15-1 or 14-2.. why? Homefield advantage.

When the fans are screaming hteir heads off, it makes it difficult for the QB to hear the play call, it makes it difficult in the huddle to hear the play, and it makes it difficult to call audiables, it makes it hard to hear the snap count, and gives the defense an advantage. If you think Homefield advantage doesn't mean anything then you don't know sports.
 
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Originally posted by mcneebs
It's an easy to implement factor that would make the home games a little more welcoming, and the away games a tad more intimidating, just as it would be in real life.



But it introduces a random x-factor that has ZERO to do with how the build of Team A compares to the build of Team B. This game is allegedly about the builds.
 
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then why do upsets happen in football? If the better team automatically wins, then they might as well not even play the game. Upsets don't happen often in this game.
 
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If this game had smaller leagues and everyone played home and away against all other teams, then sure, this could work.

But as it is it becomes too much of a lottery or "magic coin flip".
 
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