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Originally posted by goldielax25
Originally posted by CDZYO

If you're suggesting different stadium sizes in order to get different payouts, why not just simplify the proposal by having all championship games played in a full stadium? Then you could use a different scalar for each league level (say, 5x for BBB, 6x for A, 7x for AA, 8x for AAA & Pro) to get the different payouts.

The issue with using the league's cap to determine the stadium size is that it would be another incentive for teams to sandbag until the cap is gone. I'm also of the opinion that a USA BBB champion team should earn as much as an WE BBB champion, and that both should earn less than an Oceania AAA champion.

I'd also leave concessions out of the equation so you don't have to figure out how much is charged for what and which team sold more jerseys. Make the scalar larger if you need to increase the payout.

Other than that, I'm a big fan of the idea. Maybe dmfa41 will move this to Epic?

i think youre misunderstanding the capped stadiums. the 100 level would be ONLY for 13 capped teams. so this season only ee bbb leagues would play to a 100 level stadium. the 200 level would be ONLY for 21 capped teams. so this season only we bbb leagues would play to a 200 level stadium. usa bbb, ca bbb, and all other leagues in all divisions would all play to a full 300 level stadium. the caps are only so teams who normally play in front of 2 sidelines and 2 corners arent suddenly getting 7 million payouts or whatever from one game, they get a payout that is much higher than they could possibly get normally, but it is scaled down.

I'm not misunderstanding the capped stadiums at all, but I guess I am misunderstanding why (for example) a team in a Canadian AAA championship game should only earn as much as a team in a Canadian BBB championship game. (I'm ignoring the tiny difference in expected ticket prices.) With the talk of teams on the verge of promotion needing extra cash to stay competitive, I was offering a side suggestion that would address that for all levels without regard to cap/region.

Put it this way: does a USA BBB team that's being promoted need more, less, or the same amount of money as an EE BBB team that's being promoted in order to stay competitive? what about an EE AA team?

i think that all uncapped leagues should be on the same playing field because in theory they can have the same kind of massive expenditures already incurred from their current season that the money would be big relief for. USA A probably has similar quality of players with Oceania AAA, because they can all hunt for the same players. capped leagues have their cash flow restricted already by virtue of smaller stadiums, and have their expenditures limited because of lower level players. once you get into uncapped leagues you pretty much need the same amount of money etc. i think my suggestion is simple and effective. however i guess a side suggestion could be this:


how about this:

13 capped bbb league: 5x of 100 level stadium split
21 capped bbb league: 5x of 200 level stadium split
uncapped bbb league: 5x of 300 level stadium split
uncapped a league: 5.5x of 300 level stadium split
uncapped aa league: 6x of 300 level stadium split
uncapped aaa league: 6.5x of 300 level stadium split
uncapped pro league: 7x of 300 level stadium split

how does that sound?

I'd like to see teams be able to bid on hosting the title game. The host team would sell the EZ and concessions, while the 2 teams split the rest. The host team would get a slight boost in fan support for hosting this prestigious event. If you really wanted to help the lower teams, you could say that only non-playoff teams would be eligible to bid. there would have to be a discussion on exactly how to determine the best bid based on bid $$ and size of stadium.

i dont like that, there should be no way a non playoff team should get more cash from the playoffs than a 5th-8th seed does in a round 1 game.

Originally posted by goldielax25
i think that all uncapped leagues should be on the same playing field because in theory they can have the same kind of massive expenditures already incurred from their current season that the money would be big relief for. USA A probably has similar quality of players with Oceania AAA, because they can all hunt for the same players. capped leagues have their cash flow restricted already by virtue of smaller stadiums, and have their expenditures limited because of lower level players. once you get into uncapped leagues you pretty much need the same amount of money etc. i think my suggestion is simple and effective. however i guess a side suggestion could be this:


how about this:

13 capped bbb league: 5x of 100 level stadium split
21 capped bbb league: 5x of 200 level stadium split
uncapped bbb league: 5x of 300 level stadium split
uncapped a league: 5.5x of 300 level stadium split
uncapped aa league: 6x of 300 level stadium split
uncapped aaa league: 6.5x of 300 level stadium split
uncapped pro league: 7x of 300 level stadium split

how does that sound?

That works.

Why isn't this in Epic yet?

+1

There's a reason the Super Bowl is played at a neutral site.

Originally posted by CDZYO
Originally posted by goldielax25

i think that all uncapped leagues should be on the same playing field because in theory they can have the same kind of massive expenditures already incurred from their current season that the money would be big relief for. USA A probably has similar quality of players with Oceania AAA, because they can all hunt for the same players. capped leagues have their cash flow restricted already by virtue of smaller stadiums, and have their expenditures limited because of lower level players. once you get into uncapped leagues you pretty much need the same amount of money etc. i think my suggestion is simple and effective. however i guess a side suggestion could be this:


how about this:

13 capped bbb league: 5x of 100 level stadium split
21 capped bbb league: 5x of 200 level stadium split
uncapped bbb league: 5x of 300 level stadium split
uncapped a league: 5.5x of 300 level stadium split
uncapped aa league: 6x of 300 level stadium split
uncapped aaa league: 6.5x of 300 level stadium split
uncapped pro league: 7x of 300 level stadium split

how does that sound?

That works.

Why isn't this in Epic yet?

epiic

+1

+1. Epicify this.

+1

Originally posted by mikey79
Originally posted by didymus

Originally posted by Skoll Wolfrun


+1: take the largest stadium, split the Finals gate & concessions.




Better idea ... use either a stadium with a seating capacity equal to the average of all teams in the league +5000, or just use a maxed stadium setting. Prices are auto-set to 5x with higher concessions prices to boot.

Of course..instead of neutral site you could always have the visiting team sell out their own stadium at whatever max price they can and get concessions instead of the 1/2 expected price and no concessions.

Well anyway, our team got like 540k for the 1/2 price deal, while the home team raked in probably over 6 mil in ticket sales and concessions all because of a "37" pt point differential.

But they've been doing this since season 1 I'm guessing; so it's going to be hard for Bort to switch to a new process I bet.

just because its been done one way the whole time doesnt mean it cant get changed, and that there isnt a better way out there. i dont think it makes sense, the current process. honestly, who goes to a stadium when there isnt a game there to watch it? games are held at neutral sites and the proceeds are split. it makes too much sense in terms of being based off of real football, on all levels, and being fair to both teams involved in the league championship game.

+1

This really really really needs to happen!