Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Dub J
You obviously don't understand the dynamics of what happened. It wasn't "boo hoo i got banned so I'm leaving". People left in droves because the more entertaining posters were either perma banned or banned from the forums for lengthy periods of time. It got to the point there was literally nothing of interest going on in the forums. As I stated before, the forums are bigger than the actual game. When you remove the entertainment people aren't going to stick around.





obviously you arent one of the pussies I was speaking to because you are still here. I was here through all of that. Yes it sucked, but it is what it is.

Yeah, I've had more than a few 30 day bans, 14 day bans, 10 day bans, a billion 3-7 day bans. lol

Originally posted by Dub J
You obviously don't understand the dynamics of what happened. It wasn't "boo hoo i got banned so I'm leaving". People left in droves because the more entertaining posters were either perma banned or banned from the forums for lengthy periods of time. It got to the point there was literally nothing of interest going on in the forums. As I stated before, the forums are bigger than the actual game. When you remove the entertainment people aren't going to stick around.


There is still a large number of users here who give 0 shits about the forums, don't post or read the forums, and communicate mostly by either direct messaging to their team owner or coordinators, or occasionally to post "set" in a team forum.

Their reasons for leaving have nothing to do with forum moderation

Originally posted by haole
There is still a large number of users here who give 0 shits about the forums, don't post or read the forums, and communicate mostly by either direct messaging to their team owner or coordinators, or occasionally to post "set" in a team forum.

Their reasons for leaving have nothing to do with forum moderation

I suspect both of you are correct. I've known many who never posted, were either dot builders or team owners, and are no longer here... and I know of many who ceased building dots and owning teams but posted regularly, that aren't hear anymore either. Add in the few perma-banned and the many burnouts and sprinkle in a few who simply didn't wanna spend their hard earned money here anymore and you've got a pretty big exodus of bodies. I'm grinding down myself. I've been here for a way long time and have lost a lot of interest in the game. Good friends and leftover flex are all that's keeping me active and still going. When the flex is gone, I will be too. I don't hate the game... just have had enough, spent enough, done enough, and stayed long enough. Life moves on.

Originally posted by snakes22
Managing the building process for 4x the dots is not fun

For those of us who don't OC/DC it is. I enjoy building dots.

The point about having cheaper dots is to give off the image that there is more activity on this game. Nobody wants to play a game where you are losing users every season. If you have full leagues, and a lot of them, people will start coming back. There is just literally no competition anymore.

Originally posted by ryan_grant-25
The point about having cheaper dots is to give off the image that there is more activity on this game. Nobody wants to play a game where you are losing users every season. If you have full leagues, and a lot of them, people will start coming back. There is just literally no competition anymore.


That's what it really comes down to--the users would like some obvious signs that the management would like us all to stay around for a LONG time. Come on, there's still competition at the highest levels, and still teams being created at the lower levels. Let's DO THIS--invest some nickel and dime time on this game and at least pretend that ownership/management just loves being here. This isn't rocket science--post some minor "updates" in the announcements section every 5-10 days (Hey, guess what--it can be just stuff like "Hope you all are enjoying Season 4X, and remember to______").

Ownership has just given up. Are you kidding me? Its not going to kill anyone to pop up from time to time and pretend like that you're interested in us being here.

Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by MC_Hammer

There is a difference between GOOD moderation of a site (and by site I mean one with more than 1000 users, not 200 or less... which seems that GLB may now be, WAY down from it's heydey when mods were running people out left and right) and POOR moderation of a site. When I was a forum moderator for a site with more than 10k users, of course I had to spank unruly types on occasion and ban spammers, but I ALWAYS referenced specific rules when I had to call someone out so they knew EXACTLY where they stood. I didn't beat around the bush or just forum ban someone without warning or explanation which has happened here repeatedly.
Granted, some of the people banned here without explanation deserved it, but an explanation would serve as an example to others on what types of behavior are tolerated or not, particularly when in a gray area of the rules. Sometimes new rules need to be introduced to address certain gray areas that people try to skate around, and these new rules need to be put forth in an announcement for ALL to see.

I actually applied to be a forum moderator before I was a bugs mod, only to get turned down as favorites were played and several were chosen that had no business being a moderator. Now most of those same poor moderators are not even active on the site any more (wonder why?) so I guess there is that, but now we no longer have the active user base that we once had as a result.

Your posts make more sense now that I know you are hating on the moderation in spite.

lol

Originally posted by haole
There is still a large number of users here who give 0 shits about the forums, don't post or read the forums, and communicate mostly by either direct messaging to their team owner or coordinators, or occasionally to post "set" in a team forum.

Their reasons for leaving have nothing to do with forum moderation

Yeah, they're mostly people that don't own or coordinate and log on once a week at most.

Originally posted by Corndog
So let's say the cost is quartered as mentioned in the OP...and let's even act like dots don't cost anything in the way of servers because computers are magic.

Do you think people are really going to start making four times as many dots as they do now? Do you think new users are going to start flooding into a niche 7 year old browser game?

Actually i do, also more dots = more teams = more non-refundable revenue

I dont get how that doesnt make sense. You are unwilling to lower the cost of dots because you "think" it wont matter? That you "think" the same number of dots will play the game? That is astonishing to me.

I guess I look at the situation and dont see the risk involved. Unless you have less servers then you had in the games hayday, i dont know how you are doing your servers, if you are purchasing processing power from a cloud company or if you literally purchased your servers and have your own rack in the basement, but I would venture to guess the # of active users has halved if not more from this time 2 years ago.....

If you have the same server capacity as you did 2 years ago, why not give it a shot, if it fails well you've just shortened the time until the game is completely dead, if it succeeds will you will have to buy more server capacity, however that will be because an influx of users/dots/teams etc and will rejuvenate the game for years to come.

I just look at it as a lower risk but high reward situation.

You cant honestly tell me that a new user comes into this game and has 1 free dot, if you told them a dot was 1/2/3 instead of 3/6/9 per season you dont think they would create more than their free dot.....

Originally posted by Dub J
Not only is it insane to change the way you charge 7 years into a game, the current system is why most of the userbase is still here.





Very good point, however I'd argue the current system is also why the game will die a slow death that already started, hence the pro expansion....I'd argue 2 years from now their will be 1 world, and 1 pro league.....it will just get worse and worse.

I was referring to the subscription idea rather than making in-game items cost less.

Originally posted by Dub J
I was referring to the subscription idea rather than making in-game items cost less.



what is the negative to offering both the current method and the subscription method?

Originally posted by Moretti
what is the negative to offering both the current method and the subscription method?

Not a bad idea, but this game needs the current userbase rejuvenated, it's said when a new user does make their way over here, they build their free dot and they post in the forums, they ask, hell they BEG to get on a team and guess what.....the only rookie teams are ones created by the blue bloods that are doing farm teams.

hell back in the hayday you would have offers for your rookie about 7 seconds after hitting submit on the last creation screen....and i'm not talkin about the CPU ones either