Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Moretti
what is the negative to offering both the current method and the subscription method?

IF they were going to do this i would take 3 things into account
1. Would have to run both options side by side
2. Should include an option to calculate current flex into "months" so a user can convert to new system
3. For all new users MUST do a free month trial or something like that, get them here most importantly!

At the very least at least it would give GLB some "expected" financials.

Originally posted by .spider.
Not a bad idea, but this game needs the current userbase rejuvenated, it's said when a new user does make their way over here, they build their free dot and they post in the forums, they ask, hell they BEG to get on a team and guess what.....the only rookie teams are ones created by the blue bloods that are doing farm teams.

hell back in the hayday you would have offers for your rookie about 7 seconds after hitting submit on the last creation screen....and i'm not talkin about the CPU ones either

Yeah but that wont happen because there wont be a way to rejuvenate the user base by the game just stagnating. It wont just magically happen, and WGG has shown they are not going to do anything about it.

Originally posted by .spider.
At the very least at least it would give GLB some "expected" financials.

They have written off GLB from a income standpoint. They dont believe their time is worth anymore investment in it. That might very well be true. Of course I believe that is predicated on what I would categorize as missteps or mistakes, being that I believe there could have been alot more then should have done to keep things going 3-5 years back. The longer they go without doing anything, the hole they have dug just gets deeper and deeper. If they didnt think they could climb out years back, what would change their minds now that they are 3x as deep.

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
well its more about the fact they wont change anything, even when given multiple different ways of doing things. hes pretty much implying, not even in just this thread, that they only care about new games. obviously game died years ago but its about time to just let us have our way and have some fun on glb instead of making terrible, terrible new games.

which is fine but it would take a few minutes to cut dot prices in half and let the 50 of us who are still here play eachother over and over for all i care. cut the cpu leagues out, ditch peewee, make all the leagues condensed. that save server space for running cpu games. they cant really lose money if we are spending more flex on boosting and CEQ instead of not spending anything, right?

oh well who cares. it just saves me money to waste on something else. best thing about glb is i can spend a grand and play for years and still enjoy it where as i can spend $80 a time on xbox games and be done in a week or two with it.



He hasn't said anything different from what he has said for about 2 years now.

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
and we all know you couldnt careless about glb anymore, bhall. some of us wouldnt mind getting to keep playing this game, mainly because of the forums but the dots are what keep most of us here even if we really just log in for the forums.

If I couldn't care less I wouldn't be here. I would love if they did just about anything to make me come back and gameplan for a game again.

Originally posted by Moretti
what is the negative to offering both the current method and the subscription method?

I can't imagine introducing a new payment method wouldn't increase WG's operating costs.

Originally posted by Moretti
They have written off GLB from a income standpoint. They dont believe their time is worth anymore investment in it. That might very well be true. Of course I believe that is predicated on what I would categorize as missteps or mistakes, being that I believe there could have been alot more then should have done to keep things going 3-5 years back. The longer they go without doing anything, the hole they have dug just gets deeper and deeper. If they didnt think they could climb out years back, what would change their minds now that they are 3x as deep.

That's the mentality of most gaming companies. Make as much as you can, as fast as you can, and then create something new or get out.

Originally posted by Dub J
You obviously don't understand the dynamics of what happened. It wasn't "boo hoo i got banned so I'm leaving". People left in droves because the more entertaining posters were either perma banned or banned from the forums for lengthy periods of time. It got to the point there was literally nothing of interest going on in the forums. As I stated before, the forums are bigger than the actual game. When you remove the entertainment people aren't going to stick around.





Not really. They were mad that guys like that got banned, but they didn't leave the game because they got banned.

No, the forums became more and more boring with every ban. There may have been a couple of people butthurt but the majority stopped logging on because there was nothing worth reading in the forums. You're not going to keep people around offering nothing but a simulation of a game that occurs every two days followed by 3 weeks of nothing to do.

Originally posted by ryan_grant-25
The point about having cheaper dots is to give off the image that there is more activity on this game. Nobody wants to play a game where you are losing users every season. If you have full leagues, and a lot of them, people will start coming back. There is just literally no competition anymore.

Please to go ahead and look for all the people playing this game with one free player only. When you find more than 100 people doing that I will be happy to join your make dots cheaper train. Cheaper dots isn't going to do anything beside make the people who already have flex grab cheaper dots and that isn't going to help your cause.

Originally posted by .spider.

You cant honestly tell me that a new user comes into this game and has 1 free dot, if you told them a dot was 1/2/3 instead of 3/6/9 per season you dont think they would create more than their free dot.....

You can't honestly tell me there are at least 100 people here using a free dot to play because this game is so fun.

Originally posted by .spider.
Very good point, however I'd argue the current system is also why the game will die a slow death that already started, hence the pro expansion....I'd argue 2 years from now their will be 1 world, and 1 pro league.....it will just get worse and worse.

Nothing says things are getting worse like a sale.



Originally posted by .spider.
Not a bad idea, but this game needs the current userbase rejuvenated, it's said when a new user does make their way over here, they build their free dot and they post in the forums, they ask, hell they BEG to get on a team and guess what.....the only rookie teams are ones created by the blue bloods that are doing farm teams.

hell back in the hayday you would have offers for your rookie about 7 seconds after hitting submit on the last creation screen....and i'm not talkin about the CPU ones either

This game is never hitting its hayday again even if it offers everything for free.

Originally posted by bhall43
Cheaper dots isn't going to do anything beside make the people who already have flex grab cheaper dots and that isn't going to help your cause.

It doesn't impact WG financially and it makes finishing up O-line's easier. This game is on it's last breath so my attitude is make the best of the situation for what's left of the users before shutting it down. This is p much like sending off lifeboats from the Titanic half-full so people have more leg room.

It's their game so it's their right to run it in 2015 like they did in 2008. Just seems kinda lulzy, though.

Originally posted by Dub J
No, the forums became more and more boring with every ban. There may have been a couple of people butthurt but the majority stopped logging on because there was nothing worth reading in the forums. You're not going to keep people around offering nothing but a simulation of a game that occurs every two days followed by 3 weeks of nothing to do.



Those sound like people who really enjoyed the game.

Originally posted by bhall43
Please to go ahead and look for all the people playing this game with one free player only. When you find more than 100 people doing that I will be happy to join your make dots cheaper train. Cheaper dots isn't going to do anything beside make the people who already have flex grab cheaper dots and that isn't going to help your cause.

If there was a solution to be made, it would have to be mostly likely made across many fronts. The lowering of the player cost might be something necessary until the demand comes back. Currently the value of flex is relatively pretty low in my opinion due to the current state of the game.

Additionally these "fix the game" arguments are really outside of the userbase's playing field since we have no idea what the operating costs are as well as what the expectation for profit is.

Originally posted by Dub J
It doesn't impact WG financially and it makes finishing up O-line's easier. This game is on it's last breath so my attitude is make the best of the situation for what's left of the users before shutting it down. This is p much like sending off lifeboats from the Titanic half-full so people have more leg room.

It's their game so it's their right to run it in 2015 like they did in 2008. Just seems kinda lulzy, though.


If they quartered dot prices and took away the 70% refund for retiring. I would agree it doesn't impact them financially.