Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader

Exactly. Classic is still the best (only) place to play online football--GLB2 doesn't hold a candle to it. If ownership and Admins weren't so prickly with how they interact with the userbase, they'd realize that there is no rush killing this game off and that devoting some time to it might actually yield some positives.

Agree!

Originally posted by jdbolick
Nothing is going to save GLB or Warrior General. Enjoyment is ephemeral; appreciate it while it lasts.

Appears this is indeed the fate of GLB.

Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by MC_Hammer

Doesn't help that those chosen to be forum moderators had/have little to no experience in said job (paid or otherwise). Many people left that I know of personally because of piss-poor forum moderation (not saying ALL moderators sucked over the years, but MANY did/do).

They do everywhere if that is your feeling about this site. Except here they are probably a bit more dickish about it but the result is the same regardless. Idiots get served.

I agree with Hammer, I almost left due to said poor moderation.

Once my Flex i have saved for EQ for my 2 free players is gone, so am I.

Way to expensive.

Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by MC_Hammer

Doesn't help that those chosen to be forum moderators had/have little to no experience in said job (paid or otherwise). Many people left that I know of personally because of piss-poor forum moderation (not saying ALL moderators sucked over the years, but MANY did/do).

They do everywhere if that is your feeling about this site. Except here they are probably a bit more dickish about it but the result is the same regardless. Idiots get served.

There is a difference between GOOD moderation of a site (and by site I mean one with more than 1000 users, not 200 or less... which seems that GLB may now be, WAY down from it's heydey when mods were running people out left and right) and POOR moderation of a site. When I was a forum moderator for a site with more than 10k users, of course I had to spank unruly types on occasion and ban spammers, but I ALWAYS referenced specific rules when I had to call someone out so they knew EXACTLY where they stood. I didn't beat around the bush or just forum ban someone without warning or explanation which has happened here repeatedly.
Granted, some of the people banned here without explanation deserved it, but an explanation would serve as an example to others on what types of behavior are tolerated or not, particularly when in a gray area of the rules. Sometimes new rules need to be introduced to address certain gray areas that people try to skate around, and these new rules need to be put forth in an announcement for ALL to see.

I actually applied to be a forum moderator before I was a bugs mod, only to get turned down as favorites were played and several were chosen that had no business being a moderator. Now most of those same poor moderators are not even active on the site any more (wonder why?) so I guess there is that, but now we no longer have the active user base that we once had as a result.

i'd still like an answer to this question...
Originally posted by Catullus16
here's a question: how much more does it cost to sim a human-owned dot than a CPU dot?

because if all dots cost the same to sim, then server cost is more a function of games simmed rather than a function of the percentage of human ownership of dots in those games.

in other words, if most dots are CPU then you could double everyone's flex and you still wouldn't increase server costs. just sayin'

The amazing 1080p game graphics and heavy load of pictures and gifs on the forums takes up a lot of bandwidth, it's not like a man can buy his own server, those things cost like 2k. 420blazeit Bort.

GLB has been and always will be pure computer geek central. Not one ounce of marketing exists. It's like bullies in a computer lab class.

Originally posted by Landrys Legacy
It's like bullies in a computer lab class.

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Originally posted by Landrys Legacy
GLB has been and always will be pure computer geek central. Not one ounce of marketing exists. It's like bullies in a computer lab class.

Would be easy to market. Nerds love math. Football fans love, well... They love football. GLB had lots of both.

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader

Exactly. Classic is still the best (only) place to play online football--GLB2 doesn't hold a candle to it. If ownership and Admins weren't so prickly with how they interact with the userbase, they'd realize that there is no rush killing this game off and that devoting some time to it might actually yield some positives.

maybe the best post in this thread

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader

Exactly. Classic is still the best (only) place to play online football--GLB2 doesn't hold a candle to it. If ownership and Admins weren't so prickly with how they interact with the userbase, they'd realize that there is no rush killing this game off and that devoting some time to it might actually yield some positives.

Concur

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
Would be easy to market. Nerds love math.

Explains why your still around

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Not to go all real-world on you, but you are paying for servers, and the cost of additional server space to support each individual dot is very close to $0. Making dots cost $30-$90 to support server resources that costs less than $0.01 for that given dot, means that saying "servers aren't free" isn't a real reply.

The problem with people who don't understand consumer pricing, is they look at things in the wrong manner. I used to work at an independent children's theme park when in high school. There was a 6-flags (much bigger/better) about an hour away, but this place would get a lot of business because it was cheaper, closer, and a bit different for a few reasons. As sales went down to compensate, this theme park kept raising prices. In a few years their prices were the same as 6-flags. Needless to say as prices went up, less and less people came exponentially to the point where the final year, there were days when you'd have 100+ employees and less then a dozen patrons in the park. The place shut down. Profits are sales x price. Price effects sales. Adjusting price up or down, could each increase or decrease profits.

I know you guys haven't raised the price of anything, but I'm just saying the stance that you can't decrease cost per dot because you don't want to make less profits, is looking at your business in a very flawed manner.

And don't worry, I'm not naive enough to think you guys will change actually change the flex-cost of glb1 boosts (and obviously you can't change the cost of flex since flex is used on multiple games). GLB always cost a good chunk of change, but peeps myself included love football and the game. If you guys haven't discussed however, you probably should. GLB1 is an expensive game that's aggressively priced even back when updates were regular. At this point with very few changes/updates, clearly the product does not have the same worth to customers. There is a reason that the last generation of electronics product costs less once the next generation comes out.




Profits are your bottom line income, but besides that what you say is on point.

Originally posted by Corndog
So let's say the cost is quartered as mentioned in the OP...and let's even act like dots don't cost anything in the way of servers because computers are magic.

Do you think people are really going to start making four times as many dots as they do now? Do you think new users are going to start flooding into a niche 7 year old browser game?

I would build more dots yes. You don't think people would come back to play if things were cheaper? You don't think people would come back to play when there are 8 top notch pro leagues again due to a large amount of dots? I understand it will increase server costs, however I think you need to look at the long term picture here.