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drewd21
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Originally posted by Moretti

In many ways I wish they had just morphed everything into GLB2 and said here is the new update, Take it or leave it.


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bhall43
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Originally posted by DarkRogue
This is a poor argument, most MMOs give you infinitely more hours of gameplay for lets say 15 dollars a month. If you have 6 plateau dots you basically don't do anything with those dots other than maybe check their stats or watch a few replays. We're talking maybe an hour or two tops of actual dotball every 2 days. The rest is surfing the forums or w/e.


That depends on the owner and how many scrims they want to spend on. Also gameplanning is a free of charge and that is essentially the entire game at this point. Building dots is just a side job.
 
TJ Spikes
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Originally posted by Corndog
Free servers, coming to an imagination near you!


didn't read the whole thread, but I'll assume that someone pointed out that there's more to income than price...?

people actually have to buy what you're selling

if you cut the sales price by half but double the sales volume your income level stays the same--in the short term

in this game, the side effects would be more dots built/boosted and teams purchased... in all game health would increase.

if the game became more healthy, then it's possible that more new or returning players would buy flex or that existing players would buy more flex... and quite possibly both...

that would increase income overall--in the long term

you should have data that shows what effect the "Black Friday" sale has on income

There's one thing that's very obvious: doing nothing isn't going to improve anything about the game. Another thing that's becoming increasingly obvious, is that doing nothing to improve the health of the game is giving the impression of lack of cares, which is in fact making the game less healthy.

Edited by TJ Spikes on Apr 12, 2015 22:32:54
 
bhall43
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I do sort of wonder what Bort's Steam project is. I hope it is good otherwise it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to leave the coding for all 3 games (well 2 games because GLB1 hasn't been touched outside the league format in a couple years) up to Corndog. I obviously don't know exactly what goes into the coding aspect for new plays and formations, but to me it doesn't make all that much sense to not continually update both GLB1 and GLB2 with plays just to keep the game somewhat fresh. The people addicted to just the sole aspect of gameplanning would be here forever doing that and it doesn't appear to be all that time consuming a project. Bort put together new formations and plays in a matter of an offseason. Did like 20 new plays in a manner of an offseason. Corndog has done 5-10 new plays from season to season in GLB2. And I know he is playing a lot of other games on the market from our gaming forum, so you can't tell me projects like that are overloading his coding time.

Now I don't know if Corndog is possibly helping Bort with his Steam project. Maybe he is. I mean it would make some sense. But to me it seems like additional plays/formations are the easy tweak to keep people happy enough to continue working on their game.
 
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jk the game has actually been named yesterday on his twitter!

Legions of the Endless, his Steam JRPG game.

https://twitter.com/wg_phancock/status/587012008479817728
Edited by bhall43 on Apr 12, 2015 17:16:12
 
Gambler75
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
didn't read the whole thread, but I'll assume that someone pointed out that there's more to income than price...?

if you cut the sales price by 50% but increase the sales volume by 50% your income level stays the same--in the short term


I actually agree with the general point made here ... aiming for volume over the "it's niche we need to charge $100 for the lifetime of a 300 flex dot, with a $70 refund at the retirement" model. The friends I tried to drag in back in the day when the game was still "doing well", balked at the cost model and bolted.

However ... just to correct your math, if you cut your sales price by 50% ... you need a 100% increase in sales volume to compensate. (50% x 150% = 75% of the revenue you started with) Cheerio.
 
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Nothing is going to save GLB or Warrior General. Enjoyment is ephemeral; appreciate it while it lasts.
 
MC_Hammer
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Originally posted by jimmiejoe



If you make a game that people like to play, and don't intentionally run them off then you will still have a winner.



Exactly. Classic is still the best (only) place to play online football--GLB2 doesn't hold a candle to it. If ownership and Admins weren't so prickly with how they interact with the userbase, they'd realize that there is no rush killing this game off and that devoting some time to it might actually yield some positives.


Doesn't help that those chosen to be forum moderators had/have little to no experience in said job (paid or otherwise). Many people left that I know of personally because of piss-poor forum moderation (not saying ALL moderators sucked over the years, but MANY did/do).
 
Dub J
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Nothing is going to save GLB or Warrior General. Enjoyment is ephemeral; appreciate it while it lasts.


yup

That's why I feel sorry for these delusional people that are wasting their time discussing changes to this game. We've already been told that Bert and Co. are just standing by waiting for the right moment to turn out the lights.

 
Dub J
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Originally posted by MC_Hammer
Doesn't help that those chosen to be forum moderators had/have little to no experience in said job (paid or otherwise). Many people left that I know of personally because of piss-poor forum moderation (not saying ALL moderators sucked over the years, but MANY did/do).


Experience doesn't mean much. I know some people that have been mods on multiple sites that have been shit mods at every one of them. It's more about people understanding and accepting what the role of a mod really is. I've been a mod at a couple of sites and understood I was nothing more than a forum janitor. Basically cleaning up shit for a little virtual pay. Too many mods think they have some kind of authority and put themselves on the level of an administrator. No, you're not the boss. You're the person that's supposed to keep the forums easy to navigate.

That's why I've actually disagreed with people that cry about threads getting moved. That's the kind of shit a mod is supposed to be doing rather than running around banning people and threatening users.

 
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here's a question: how much more does it cost to sim a human-owned dot than a CPU dot?
 
bhall43
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Originally posted by Gambler75
I actually agree with the general point made here ... aiming for volume over the "it's niche we need to charge $100 for the lifetime of a 300 flex dot, with a $70 refund at the retirement" model. The friends I tried to drag in back in the day when the game was still "doing well", balked at the cost model and bolted.

However ... just to correct your math, if you cut your sales price by 50% ... you need a 100% increase in sales volume to compensate. (50% x 150% = 75% of the revenue you started with) Cheerio.


If they balked at the cost at the time they probably weren't going to be very big on the game all around.
 
bhall43
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Originally posted by MC_Hammer
Doesn't help that those chosen to be forum moderators had/have little to no experience in said job (paid or otherwise). Many people left that I know of personally because of piss-poor forum moderation (not saying ALL moderators sucked over the years, but MANY did/do).


They do everywhere if that is your feeling about this site. Except here they are probably a bit more dickish about it but the result is the same regardless. Idiots get served.
 
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Feeling about this site... You rule so everyone else does not matter... No one cares about your crew anymore... Outdated .... Contribute to the new or go away 2015 bra some of want to play not get taught
 
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So Cornblade is the official spokesperson for GLB these days? God help us all , this ship is goin down!

 
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