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Originally posted by thunderdoozer
hazy, if you are still reading these, one of the things this game has lost over the past year is league identity. The process of entering the abyss each offseason and having no idea about where you are going to be placed the following season has taken the soul out of the game. If you take the Pro leagues away, the only league with identity will be WL. Which means everyone else will feel like they aren't really playing the game.

You remember in the early game, leagues had a real identity, and teams posted with pride about being from USA BBB 10 or Canada A 8 or whatever. Now, the game is one big waiting process about getting to the pros. If you take that away, a lot of the incentive to play this game goes too. The game is one big planning stage and then it's over because most people never make it to "the" league.

There has to be a way to keep / bring back a league identity and get the leagues to a competitive level.

I think a better solution would be to vary the league size at each level to maintain parity. For example, if there aren't enough teams to fill out the national pro levels, make the league size 28 across the board for national pro. If the regional pro (which should receive actual names corresponding to the "sub region") can fill their level, keep 32 there. If National minor is really weak, make league size there 24. Etc, etc.

BRING IDENTITY BACK. DONT TAKE IT AWAY.

well said, completely agree...the sim/game did have more life then!

+1 to wise.

+1 to Wise's suggestion. To create rivalries and identities have less turnover in the WL and Hemispheres/4 Pro Leagues.

+1 to Wise's suggestion, which is extremely sensible.

Originally posted by beenlurken
Just because it has a full roster doesnt mean its not a terrible team.

No kidding

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1065758 - 599 days old, and decline is going to be brutal this season
Their youngest LB is 575. The rest are all 599.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1306252 - horrible and only SS on team
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1071579 595 day old level 66 DT
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1107234 - 579 day old level 66 DT
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1065740 - 599 day old level 73 DT

One of the FS is over 570 days old an is level 66.

They only have 49 players and 4 of them are QBs and 8 are WRs.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Originally posted by beenlurken

Just because it has a full roster doesnt mean its not a terrible team.

No kidding

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1065758 *OPEN* - 599 days old, and decline is going to be brutal this season
Their youngest LB is 575. The rest are all 599.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1306252 *OPEN* - horrible and only SS on team
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1071579 595 day old level 66 DT
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1107234 - 579 day old level 66 DT
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1065740 - 599 day old level 73 DT

One of the FS is over 570 days old an is level 66.

They only have 49 players and 4 of them are QBs and 8 are WRs.




and they will be broke about 4 games into the season and lose the team anyway

Originally posted by bug03
25 obviously terrible teams found in 7 minutes. Too many pro leagues causes this. Cut them

All you have done is prove a problem with the Promo/Demo and the timing with which it is done, because if you then look at the Reg Pro Elite....there are several Reg Pro teams that could easily compete and most of these are guts.

Don't change the leagues, but fix the Promo/Demo...which means do it twice a season at day 41 and then at -8. this would fix a lot of the competitive issue.

Originally posted by Raiders12
All you have done is prove a problem with the Promo/Demo and the timing with which it is done, because if you then look at the Reg Pro Elite....there are several Reg Pro teams that could easily compete and most of these are guts.

Don't change the leagues, but fix the Promo/Demo...which means do it twice a season at day 41 and then at -8. this would fix a lot of the competitive issue.

Show me the Regional Pro teams that can compete with teams like

Queensland Exiles
Buenos Aires Barracudas
Stewart Ballers
Indianapolis Gurupies
Black Sea Storm

etc.


I'd like to see some of those scrimmages.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Show me the Regional Pro teams that can compete with teams like

Queensland Exiles
Buenos Aires Barracudas
Stewart Ballers
Indianapolis Gurupies
Black Sea Storm

etc.


I'd like to see some of those scrimmages.




You might be surprised...but the point is, these teams, if they are so good will be playing the other "good" teams in the Hemispheres. Catch's idea then leaves room for needed advancement in the feeder leagues wheras Wise's suggestion constricts the Nat Pro too much and dumps team back into Reg Pro.

These teams that Bug pointed out are gutted and should be and would be dropped if a second team reset was done at day -8 (my guess is a lot of these teams wouldn't gut like this if they knew they would be caught and dropped on day -8.

Originally posted by Raiders12
Originally posted by Rage Kinard

Show me the Regional Pro teams that can compete with teams like

Queensland Exiles
Buenos Aires Barracudas
Stewart Ballers
Indianapolis Gurupies
Black Sea Storm

etc.


I'd like to see some of those scrimmages.




You might be surprised...but the point is, these teams, if they are so good will be playing the other "good" teams in the Hemispheres. Catch's idea then leaves room for needed advancement in the feeder leagues wheras Wise's suggestion constricts the Nat Pro too much and dumps team back into Reg Pro.

These teams that Bug pointed out are gutted and should be and would be dropped if a second team reset was done at day -8 (my guess is a lot of these teams wouldn't gut like this if they knew they would be caught and dropped on day -8.

"You might be surprise" is the best you can do?

I just went through all of Regional Pro Elite... this is the only team that would have any kind of shot against playoff teams in Pro (and this is a stretch)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=741


It sounds like you are more concerned of the stigma of end-game teams not playing in a "Pro" league... Regional Pro is not considered a "Pro" league by just about everyone outside of DD.

Originally posted by Raiders12
You might be surprised...but the point is, these teams, if they are so good will be playing the other "good" teams in the Hemispheres. Catch's idea then leaves room for needed advancement in the feeder leagues wheras Wise's suggestion constricts the Nat Pro too much and dumps team back into Reg Pro.

These teams that Bug pointed out are gutted and should be and would be dropped if a second team reset was done at day -8 (my guess is a lot of these teams wouldn't gut like this if they knew they would be caught and dropped on day -8.

Well, I have looked at several Regional Pro elite rosters, and I haven't found 1 capable of competing with the top National Pro teams.

I'm not saying there aren't any, because I definitely haven't looked at all of them, but none of the ones I have looked at are at that level.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Originally posted by Raiders12

You might be surprised...but the point is, these teams, if they are so good will be playing the other "good" teams in the Hemispheres. Catch's idea then leaves room for needed advancement in the feeder leagues wheras Wise's suggestion constricts the Nat Pro too much and dumps team back into Reg Pro.

These teams that Bug pointed out are gutted and should be and would be dropped if a second team reset was done at day -8 (my guess is a lot of these teams wouldn't gut like this if they knew they would be caught and dropped on day -8.

Well, I have looked at several Regional Pro elite rosters, and I haven't found 1 capable of competing with the top National Pro teams.

I'm not saying there aren't any, because I definitely haven't looked at all of them, but none of the ones I have looked at are at that level.

Just run the effective level script... there are barely any full rosters in Regional Pro Elite... and most of the few that do have complete/close to complete rosters are under-aged/leveled.

Originally posted by beenlurken

It sounds like you are more concerned of the stigma of end-game teams not playing in a "Pro" league... Regional Pro is not considered a "Pro" league by just about everyone outside of DD.

Pro = Uncapped in new GLB lingo.

The name of the leagues should really be "National AAA" to illustrate what they are, but it's semantics.

1 WL
4 National Pro Leagues (360+)
TBD National Pro AAA (320+)
TBD Regional Semi Pro (280-320)
TBD National Semi Pro (221-280)
TBD National Minor (181-240)
TBD Regional Minor (141-200)
TBD Local Minor (101-160)
TBD University (61-120)
TBD Prep (21-80)
TBD Sophomore (1-40)
TBD Rookie (0-0)

Call them what you want, but that is how it needs to more or less look.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Well, I have looked at several Regional Pro elite rosters, and I haven't found 1 capable of competing with the top National Pro teams.

I'm not saying there aren't any, because I definitely haven't looked at all of them, but none of the ones I have looked at are at that level.

But you keep ignoring the fact that these top Nat Pro teams wouldn't be playing them anyway as they would be in the hemispheres and not the feeder leagues where these advanced Reg Pro would be.

But nothing gets better in either the Nat or Reg Pro if there isn't a second team/league restructure at -8 because these gutted roster teams shouldn't still be in either Pro league. Allow these teams to stay there with CPU rosters is one of the biggest causes to lack of competitiveness.