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Originally posted by beenlurken
That said Nat Pro and Regional Pro do get better from hemispheres despite having gutted teams. As it is now their are gutted teams, average non-competitive teams (regional pro caliber type teams) and then the top playoff teams. Remove those top teams for hemisphere and inject the best from regional pro and overall the parity the #1 team to the #12 is greatly improve.. regardless of whether there are 3 or 4 gutted teams. The league is much better off having 10 teams capable of winning a conference instead of only 2 or 3.

Agreed...until this is fixed with a day -8 reset all the rest is just kicking the problem around.

Originally posted by BobbyCox4Pres.
Dude, the hemisphere thing has to stop.. Making three World Leagues let alone 2 just doesn't make any sense..

Why do you think its okay for 1 or 2 teams to have a chance to win a league every season and nobody else stand a chance? Shouldn't it be fun every game and not just a few in the playoffs?

Originally posted by Raiders12

You're right it is semantics to a great extent, but this just shows the difference between the two suggestions we have. You names pretty much show the Wise suggestions, but this would be the Catch suggestion:


Yeah, Wise pretty much nailed it. Just shortened his post.

Everyone pretty much agrees that a move needs to be made, and everyone agrees on most of the principles. The only holdups are how many Nat Pro leagues should there be, and will regional identity be lost? I submit that the quantity of National Pro leagues is irrelevant except for making those leagues the most competitive that they can be. If you have an uncapped horizontal promotion style league tier below national Pro, it doesn't matter if there are 20 leagues there if they are sorted by Elite, Competitive, and Normal, and the Elite teams are the ones being pulled up to Nat Pro as needed.

You could have 6 Nat Pro leagues, or you could have 4 Nat Pro Leagues with 2 extra leagues in Reg Pro Elite. In terms of league competitiveness, it's six of one, half dozen of the other because any way you look at it, those 64 teams in Regional Pro Elite are going to have just as good of competition in Regional Pro as they would in Nat Pro because they'd be playing the same teams regardless. That is because of the fact they they'd be in Elite. You can have one, two, three, four, or however many elite leagues as necessary to contain the Elite teams in Regional Pro. Just group them together by ability and let them slug it out.

When you consider that option, the number 4 for Nat Pro leagues sounds more viable. Some teams will never reach Pro under that system though. That's life.

Originally posted by beenlurken
You are just afraid your team will never be good enough to reach the hemisphere... you are one of those who thinks playing at the highest levels is something that should not have to be earned, but should be given to all teams.

Oh boy, I bet you get a lot of this

Originally posted by bug03
Originally posted by BobbyCox4Pres.

Dude, the hemisphere thing has to stop.. Making three World Leagues let alone 2 just doesn't make any sense..

Why do you think its okay for 1 or 2 teams to have a chance to win a league every season and nobody else stand a chance? Shouldn't it be fun every game and not just a few in the playoffs?

Because getting to a Pro leagues is considered as having "made it" in GLB. If we contract Pro leagues, then it becomes harder for average GLB'ers like BoobyCox to reach the "Pro level" and feel like they have "made it".


Its the only real kink in Wise's suggestion as far as convincing an overwhelming majority to vote for it. If we keep the 8 Pro regions as "national pro competitive" type league and form a "national pro elite" hemisphere leagues then people can reach NPC and still feel like they have "made it".

Originally posted by bug03
Why do you think its okay for 1 or 2 teams to have a chance to win a league every season and nobody else stand a chance? Shouldn't it be fun every game and not just a few in the playoffs?

Maybe because, they don't..

Originally posted by beenlurken
Because getting to a Pro leagues is considered as having "made it" in GLB. If we contract Pro leagues, then it becomes harder for average GLB'ers like BoobyCox to reach the "Pro level" and feel like they have "made it".


Its the only real kink in Wise's suggestion as far as convincing an overwhelming majority to vote for it. If we keep the 8 Pro regions as "national pro competitive" type league and form a "national pro elite" hemisphere leagues then people can reach NPC and still feel like they have "made it".

I have not made sh%t, but some dots, we haven't even begun, dots don't start till the final build.. happy to be in the PRO's damn right, happy about competition here, season hasn't started.. Stopping here, no.. Stop making this about me,

Originally posted by beenlurken
Because getting to a Pro leagues is considered as having "made it" in GLB. If we contract Pro leagues, then it becomes harder for average GLB'ers like BoobyCox to reach the "Pro level" and feel like they have "made it".


Its the only real kink in Wise's suggestion as far as convincing an overwhelming majority to vote for it. If we keep the 8 Pro regions as "national pro competitive" type league and form a "national pro elite" hemisphere leagues then people can reach NPC and still feel like they have "made it".

The hell is this "made it" load of BS now, I'm becoming a fan

Originally posted by beenlurken
Because getting to a Pro leagues is considered as having "made it" in GLB. If we contract Pro leagues, then it becomes harder for average GLB'ers like BoobyCox to reach the "Pro level" and feel like they have "made it".


Its the only real kink in Wise's suggestion as far as convincing an overwhelming majority to vote for it. If we keep the 8 Pro regions as "national pro competitive" type league and form a "national pro elite" hemisphere leagues then people can reach NPC and still feel like they have "made it".

And really what's wrong with that? If getting to the Nat Pro feeder league (as in Catch's suggestion) makes them feel like they made it, who does it really hurt?

Originally posted by BobbyCox4Pres.
Maybe because, they don't..

no... 1 or 2 teams in each conference have a chance... the rest are playing for the playoffs.

Originally posted by beenlurken
Originally posted by Kenshinzen

535 GLB agents say NO to National Pro reorganization.



Almost all of those votes are voting NO on Catch's proposal...



nope. I voted NO to any proposal.

Originally posted by bug03
no... 1 or 2 teams in each conference have a chance... the rest are playing for the playoffs.

I know, that's how the NPL system works, it's always been that way.. The winner goes to WL, you new

Originally posted by BobbyCox4Pres.
I know, that's how the NPL system works, it's always been that way.. The winner goes to WL, you new

no, I'm asking how that is competition? If you know you are going to win or lose before the game is played... how is that fun?

Originally posted by bug03
no, I'm asking how that is competition? If you know you are going to win or lose before the game is played... how is that fun?

It's not fun, knowing your gonna lose, but thats GLB.. In GLB you use it as a learning tool, you either don't plan to try, or you do and make a fix.. make a fix is fun... trying is fun.. GLB, I endorse this method..

Restructure, optional.. Two WL's no... simple..