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Joebarber
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Originally posted by Mightyhalo
Originally posted by Joebarber


I apologize if that offended you...please discuss the topic


There is no reason for it here. You can leave that type of garbage elsewhere. Discuss the passing changes, or stay out.


It reflects the reasoning behind certain posts in this forum...I feel that is relevant to the topic...the rest of my post was relevant to the passing changes so where are you going with this?

Another issue is that the testing isn't representative of the sim at a high lvl.

How many WL WRs have you seen that are built like the ones testing? It's not like they are a little off, it's not even close.
 
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Originally posted by Joebarber


How many WL WRs have you seen that are built like the ones testing? It's not like they are a little off, it's not even close.


the game summary txt files don't show EQ. here is an example of one of the WR builds:

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2998/glbtest.jpg
 
Joebarber
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Originally posted by tonnyrat
Originally posted by Joebarber



How many WL WRs have you seen that are built like the ones testing? It's not like they are a little off, it's not even close.


the game summary txt files don't show EQ. here is an example of one of the WR builds:

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2998/glbtest.jpg


still a little off, but closer...where can we see the builds with EQ?
 
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Originally posted by Joebarber
still a little off, but closer...where can we see the builds with EQ?


unfortunately, you can't. even i can't see half of the builds on that team and it's the one i'm assigned to.

i understand the questioning of some of the testing methods in this thread and have brought it up on the test server. the test team leads have all the access, including player tactics. other members of the team - like me - don't, making it harder to isolate and test specific aspects of the new changes.

this test is not even close to being done and will be going on for a few more weeks. once these problems get ironed out, you should be seeing better comments/critiques.

 
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Originally posted by tonnyrat
Originally posted by Joebarber

still a little off, but closer...where can we see the builds with EQ?


unfortunately, you can't. even i can't see half of the builds on that team and it's the one i'm assigned to.

i understand the questioning of some of the testing methods in this thread and have brought it up on the test server. the test team leads have all the access, including player tactics. other members of the team - like me - don't, making it harder to isolate and test specific aspects of the new changes.

this test is not even close to being done and will be going on for a few more weeks. once these problems get ironed out, you should be seeing better comments/critiques.



what is the point in only showing part of the builds? If we can't see where the EQ is it's worthless
 
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Originally posted by Joebarber
what is the point in only showing part of the builds? If we can't see where the EQ is it's worthless


i agree 100% that it's worthless to see a build w/o the EQ distribution. i don't think it's by design to omit that information. everyone should have access to them.
 
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Originally posted by tonnyrat
Originally posted by Joebarber

what is the point in only showing part of the builds? If we can't see where the EQ is it's worthless


i agree 100% that it's worthless to see a build w/o the EQ distribution. i don't think it's by design to omit that information. everyone should have access to them.


alright well whoever is in charge of all that...

*catch i'm looking at you*
 
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Originally posted by Joebarber
what is the point in only showing part of the builds? If we can't see where the EQ is it's worthless


word.
 
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tbh...everything about the test server is just a bit ridiculous...for any person who isnt a part of the test server...its mind numbing to understand a games test. Having to look at some unorganized spreadsheet of player builds that dont even give 100% of the into on the player...watching replays of what seems like terrible coordinators dueling it out.

i know people want to say that testers have the same info as everyone...but lets just call a spade a spade...they have an advantage over everyone in this game by seeing and knowing what is going on first hand.
 
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I really hope all these tests are just for show for the people that want proof some testing is going on, and that there is REAL testing being done behind the scenes that have a complete and clear goal, with true testable environment variables.

 
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Originally posted by Joebarber
what is the point in only showing part of the builds? If we can't see where the EQ is it's worthless


When I was doing test, there wasn't equipment on the players. You set their attribute to the value you wanted it.

 
Joebarber
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Originally posted by Enkidu98
Originally posted by Joebarber

what is the point in only showing part of the builds? If we can't see where the EQ is it's worthless


When I was doing test, there wasn't equipment on the players. You set their attribute to the value you wanted it.



Originally posted by tonnyrat


the game summary txt files don't show EQ. here is an example of one of the WR builds:

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2998/glbtest.jpg


 
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What part of _when I was doing test_ was confusing for you?

If they are using eq now its actually stupid for the reason that is being discussed. You can;t see the EQ in the text file.

MUCH easier to just set the attributes at the desired number. If you add equipment, you make it hard for everyone else to see the true build.
 
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Originally posted by Enkidu98
What part of _when I was doing test_ was confusing for you?

If they are using eq now its actually stupid for the reason that is being discussed. You can;t see the EQ in the text file.

MUCH easier to just set the attributes at the desired number. If you add equipment, you make it hard for everyone else to see the true build.


The text files have always shown values of 100 or less. So if thats what you were testing...then lol...but obviously you weren't doin it like that...which makes the entire process even more lol.
Edited by bhall43 on Oct 13, 2010 12:31:13
 
Joebarber
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Originally posted by Enkidu98
What part of _when I was doing test_ was confusing for you?

If they are using eq now its actually stupid for the reason that is being discussed. You can;t see the EQ in the text file.

MUCH easier to just set the attributes at the desired number. If you add equipment, you make it hard for everyone else to see the true build.


What part of "when you were doing test" is relevant to this discussion? That was the point I was making...
 
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