Warrior General Games

Originally posted by PLAYMAKERS
Only the highest skill point team in the game

What do you have as evidence?


I said that post crash HOOD is 30 points better than a pre crash HOOD team - that is my evidence

Originally posted by reddogrw
all I know is I used to early boost from 1-4 to max VA's

I waited this time because there is no advantage with VA's to boost early

my new HOOD team is about 30 SP better per player than before the crash

you have a higher EL than HOOD because you don't have HHLB and only have 2 TE on your team - we discussed this - and none of this states that you cannot compete boosting early - we also have some 4 AE dots

I am stating that with the same roster set-up and build plans HOOD now is better than pre-crash HOOD EL

who let jackson mahomes out of GLB jail?

Originally posted by slughead42
I don't think there were any fatal problems that anyone's run into, or brought up to me at least, since the last (millionth) version that's the one out there. Bort kept monkeying with the timing of getting TPs in one shot and the timing of how long you could use which available boosts and stuff like that, but I think that the VPB keeps that all within the rails. So, as I said at the time, it would take someone way more adept than me at actual programming to "know" from the code whether it's still working like it's supposed to.

That being said, I've never done some work in the VPB and then gone to replicate it on a dot (like, just today with the starting stuff on a couple of new dots) and had it not produce the same result, so my confidence remains high, I guess.

*nods*

If it's not the VPB, then it's probably a PEBKAC error... Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair.

Still weird though, especially since I'm not the only one who had that experience. But real-life results have to trump VPB results, so if a build method works in the VPB but not in real life, I have to stick with the real-life results.

Originally posted by Pwned
#toneitdown

#no

Originally posted by PLAYMAKERS
put up a team skill point ahead of Comets then. ill be waiting

I can build a dot with an insanely-high Player Value by going 0-AEQ and solely focusing on all the Major attributes first before pivoting to the Minor attributes. That dot will perform terrible on the field -- because the majority of his points are in Major attributes regardless of whether or not those are the most important attributes for that dot.

Player Value and Effective Level matter, of course. But they're a general indicator of how efficiently your dot was built, and "efficient" does not always equal "best."

Your goal should be to build the dot that performs best. Period. Player Value is a tool to help you figure that out, most likely by figuring out your end-build goal and then using Player Value to figure out which build plan gets you to that goal in the most efficient way. But if you're just building for Player Value, that's how you end up 10-6 and losing by 14 points in the first round of the playoffs ( https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/team.pl?team_id=10175 ), or 5-11 and missing the playoffs entirely ( https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/team.pl?team_id=10089 ).

Lotta self-glossing going on in the forums this week by people with remarkably little hardware to back it up. And yeah, I don't have much hardware either, but I don't have to be a master chef myself to know when a steak was undercooked -- or to *say* it was undercooked.

We are talking optimal builds. Doesnt matter if 3 or 4 AEQ. The know it alls went 4 piece so they have a built in excuse. Oh they could have had the highest skill point team but chose not to they want me to believe. No 3 AEQ team is higher than KC. This includes Hood, War machine and Swat who are all established and on the same 4 AEQ slow build route

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I can't control full teams of dots I didn't make.

https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4847842 This dot boosted late. He has a 20+ EL advantage compared to any DE on your team. If you had boosted your dots late, he wouldn't have such an advantage.



So like 1 attribute is 1 point higher, or a couple of attributes are fractionally higher...? That's totally not worth it

Originally posted by drewd21

SP Per Attr.----------Min Attr. Value----------Max Attr. Value
------ 1 ------------------- 00.00 --------------------- 48.06
------ 2 ------------------- 48.07 --------------------- 60.51
------ 3 ------------------- 60.52 --------------------- 67.97
------ 4 ------------------- 67.98 --------------------- 73.24
------ 5 ------------------- 73.25 --------------------- 77.28
------ 6 ------------------- 77.29 --------------------- 80.53
------ 7 ------------------- 80.54 --------------------- 83.25
------ 8 ------------------- 83.26 --------------------- 85.58
------ 9 ------------------- 85.59 --------------------- 87.60
------ 10 ------------------ 87.61 -------------------- 89.40
------ 11 ------------------ 89.41 -------------------- 91.01
------ 12 ------------------ 91.02 -------------------- 92.46
------ 13 ------------------ 92.47 -------------------- 93.79
------ 14 ------------------ 93.80 -------------------- 95.00
------ 15 ------------------ 95.01 -------------------- 96.13
------ 16 ------------------ 96.14 -------------------- 97.18
------ 17 ------------------ 97.19 -------------------- 98.15
------ 18 ------------------ 98.16 -------------------- 99.06
------ 19 ------------------ 99.07 -------------------- 99.92
------ 20 ------------------ 99.93 -------------------- 100.73
------ 21 ------------------ 100.74 ------------------ 101.50
------ 22 ------------------ 101.51 ------------------ 102.23
------ 23 ------------------ 102.24 ------------------ 102.92
------ 24 ------------------ 102.93 ------------------ 103.58
------ 25 ------------------ 103.59 ------------------ 104.21
------ 26 ------------------ 104.22 ------------------ 104.81
------ 27 ------------------ 104.82 ------------------ 105.39
------ 28 ------------------ 105.40 ------------------ 105.94
------ 29 ------------------ 105.95 ------------------ 106.47
------ 30 ------------------ 106.48 ------------------ 106.98



----------------- L1-21 ---- L22-29 ---- L30-37 ---- L38+
3 Majors ----- +0.67 ---- +0.50 ------ +0.38 ----- +0.28
4 Majors ----- +0.50 ---- +0.38 ------ +0.28 ----- +0.21
5 Majors ----- +0.40 ---- +0.30 ------ +0.23 ----- +0.17

3 Minors ----- +0.33 ---- +0.25 ------ +0.19 ----- +0.14
4 Minors ----- +0.25 ---- +0.19 ------ +0.14 ----- +0.11

Originally posted by PLAYMAKERS
We are talking optimal builds. Doesnt matter if 3 or 4 AEQ. The know it alls went 4 piece so they have a built in excuse. Oh they could have had the highest skill point team but chose not to they want me to believe. No 3 AEQ team is higher than KC. This includes Hood, War machine and Swat who are all established and on the same 4 AEQ slow build route

Dude, give it up, you are the only one who doesn't understand. And you have no successes to back your claims. Be like me, know your role and fight amongst the second tier of assholes. Your aim is too high.

Originally posted by Pwned
Dude, give it up, you are the only one who doesn't understand. And you have no successes to back your claims. Be like me, know your role and fight amongst the second tier of assholes. Your aim is too high.



You give it up. Im calling out OP, theo, reddog and wise out on their BS claims. KC boosted early and is highest skill point team in the game.

Originally posted by Novus
I can build a dot with an insanely-high Player Value by going 0-AEQ and solely focusing on all the Major attributes first before pivoting to the Minor attributes. That dot will perform terrible on the field -- because the majority of his points are in Major attributes regardless of whether or not those are the most important attributes for that dot.

Player Value and Effective Level matter, of course. But they're a general indicator of how efficiently your dot was built, and "efficient" does not always equal "best."

Your goal should be to build the dot that performs best. Period. Player Value is a tool to help you figure that out, most likely by figuring out your end-build goal and then using Player Value to figure out which build plan gets you to that goal in the most efficient way. But if you're just building for Player Value, that's how you end up 10-6 and losing by 14 points in the first round of the playoffs ( https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/team.pl?team_id=10175 ), or 5-11 and missing the playoffs entirely ( https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/team.pl?team_id=10089 ).

Lotta self-glossing going on in the forums this week by people with remarkably little hardware to back it up. And yeah, I don't have much hardware either, but I don't have to be a master chef myself to know when a steak was undercooked -- or to *say* it was undercooked.

No shit sherlock but we are talking build path to achieve best 3 or 4 piece build. Not specialty kob build with low skilll point, not coordinating. Not previous trophies. The results are in KC won build path and competed every season up to Champions league. Keep hating parrots

Originally posted by PeeJJK
who let jackson mahomes out of GLB jail?

The rookie forum is calling your name

Originally posted by PLAYMAKERS
The rookie forum is calling your name

welcome back

Originally posted by Chris B Chicken


So like 1 attribute is 1 point higher, or a couple of attributes are fractionally higher...? That's totally not worth it



Player value is fungible man. an extra 30 pts in player value could mean taking those primary attributes 1 point less (to end at the same spot) and have 30 pts for 1.5 caps in another attribute. Or it's 30 more SP to put into SA's. That is 5 levels of boost SP to spend, it's far from nothing.

Not worth what? Being less competitive s1-s4? Spoiler, s1-s4 is going to be most players boosting late and a few guys "stomping" by boosting early and getting trophies no one cares about.

Also fwiw even Comets didn't boost from 1-11 early, which is a stance many users are going to see this thread and conflate to use all boosts early.

Originally posted by Bluesman
Don't think they need to, both gold and silver trophies were won by slow built teams.

100% this.

lolminors?