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TJ Spikes
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Not to pile on, but if our Dingleberry in chief didn't scrap the existing pandemic response plan, all of us probably wouldn't need to be wearing masks in the first place.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/14/mcconnell-obama-playbook-pandemic-259969

That's not fake news, unless McConnell is now a closet Democrat too

 
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Originally posted by utvols

One, to prohibit possible spread. Two, because the actual PPE that would’ve “possibly” kept visitors “maybe” saf-er was badly needed for first line medical workers that were having to wear garbage bags due to the miserable mishandling of resources. Think gowns, gloves, masks, face shields, and still not near 100% protection. Keeping out visitors was optional, Drs./nurses risking life was not. Supplying pos. pressure hazmat suits for visitors was also not feasible. The medical community didn’t disallow visitors out of meanness, it was an unknown spreading issue, think on that one. Plus, early on, they had to figure out transmissibility of a novel virus.

Also, there is a huge difference between masks and filters/resps.. Unvented masks (like cloth or med.) mainly block “your” particles and slow exhalation momentum. Filter/respirators like N95 rated will not “filter” viruses, they’re great for dust. Higher rating-more restrictive. Fit is also crucial. This is a good explanation on masks, read if interested in facts. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449 I’ll be happy to explain details re masks to whomever cares in PM.

Thank You!, Theo for passing on “real” info, factual and accurate! Always the diplomat, I just wish I had that talent.

And about the OP face mask, we’re they out of the ones that said “ I support the losers” ? Just sayin’. And aggression, that’s just what we need more of now.

Edit: long rant removed.🎤


 
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Y'all couldn't find enough people to argue with on facebook?

This is a covid free zone....move along.
 
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
Not to pile on, but if our Dingleberry in chief didn't scrap the existing pandemic response plan, all of us probably wouldn't need to be wearing masks in the first place.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/14/mcconnell-obama-playbook-pandemic-259969

That's not fake news, unless McConnell is now a closet Democrat too



Easy to be an armchair QB.
If Clinton had won we would all be dead because she would have been too busy destroying hard drives to care about us peons.
 
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Y'all couldn't find enough people to argue with on facebook?

This is a covid free zone....move along.


I ain't on Facebook. And I'll stay out of the politics.

And it's not a Covid-free zone, but we'd be closer to being in one if we all wore masks!
 
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Easy to be an armchair QB.
If Clinton had won we would all be dead because she would have been too busy destroying hard drives to care about us peons.


What people need to realize is that they are all crooks. The 2 party system is a complete and abject failure for democracy. It's was too easy for the clinton news network, and murdoch news to set up a donkeys vs elephants game. red vs blue. now the general public is too busy fighting among themselves, to realize it's all smoke and mirrors. we've been had.

Don't believe for 1 second that this year's choices, between insanity and senility, are purely by chance. no matter which side wins, everyone loses.

 
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
What people need to realize is that they are all crooks. The 2 party system is a complete and abject failure for democracy. It's was too easy for the clinton news network, and murdoch news to set up a donkeys vs elephants game. red vs blue. now the general public is too busy fighting among themselves, to realize it's all smoke and mirrors. we've been had.

Don't believe for 1 second that this year's choices, between insanity and senility, are purely by chance. no matter which side wins, everyone loses.



GET OUT OF MY MIND. YOU ARE READING MY MIND, YOU DEVIL.
 
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
What people need to realize is that they are all crooks. The 2 party system is a complete and abject failure for democracy. It's was too easy for the clinton news network, and murdoch news to set up a donkeys vs elephants game. red vs blue. now the general public is too busy fighting among themselves, to realize it's all smoke and mirrors. we've been had.

Don't believe for 1 second that this year's choices, between insanity and senility, are purely by chance. no matter which side wins, everyone loses.

Don’t forget to add the Q cult variable into the swamp stew. I’ve got one in my distant family. Nobody talks to her nutty ass anymore 🤪

 
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Just wear the f@c%ing mask. It is a small sacrifice we have to make in order to get back to normal. Even if it's 50% effective, that's something.

TJ
 
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This forum is an exact replica of whats going on with this country. A foreign entity starts a thread and our two sides fight over it, we should just join forces and attack the foreign entity. Ill start...


You're such a rebel Norse, whats next in your Shermans march on society...Jaywalking, driving without a seatbelt???
 
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
What people need to realize is that they are all crooks. The 2 party system is a complete and abject failure for democracy. It's was too easy for the clinton news network, and murdoch news to set up a donkeys vs elephants game. red vs blue. now the general public is too busy fighting among themselves, to realize it's all smoke and mirrors. we've been had.

Don't believe for 1 second that this year's choices, between insanity and senility, are purely by chance. no matter which side wins, everyone loses.



Amen!
 
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
What people need to realize is that they are all crooks. The 2 party system is a complete and abject failure for democracy. It's was too easy for the clinton news network, and murdoch news to set up a donkeys vs elephants game. red vs blue. now the general public is too busy fighting among themselves, to realize it's all smoke and mirrors. we've been had.

Don't believe for 1 second that this year's choices, between insanity and senility, are purely by chance. no matter which side wins, everyone loses.



I can't help but think the majority of people feel the same way. I also think a large majority from both sides want term limits.
 
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"Wow, after months of having a stance on this issue, you all just changed my mind!"

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Originally posted by Fred Ex
This forum is an exact replica of whats going on with this country. A foreign entity starts a thread and our two sides fight over it, we should just join forces and attack the foreign entity. Ill start...


You're such a rebel Norse, whats next in your Shermans march on society...Jaywalking, driving without a seatbelt???




 
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Originally posted by TheBear
I can't help but think the majority of people feel the same way. I also think a large majority from both sides want term limits.


I feel that way very much. Term limits might help a bit and I'd be for them. Three more things that would really help are;

#1, Complete disclosure of all parties involved in any campaign backing. That includes 'non-party' entities (like super pac's). Why? Simple... the way it is now money backing any political member can come from anywhere or anyone, including foreign governments. It's an easy matter to bypass the few rules in place that are supposed to keep our elections safe from outside interests and keep them purely American.

#2, A strong 3rd party. Personally, for me, I would prefer the Independent party to be that one. Not much of a Socialist party, People's party, Green Party, ect, ect, ect... supporter. Generally the Independent party tends to straddle the middle pretty well, seeing the quality of either side depending on the issue and what the best solutions are. A good solid 3rd party would divide the strength of the top two and force both Democrats and Republicans to the table to work together more than they do.

#3, Campaign fund limitations and equalizations. Right now it's all about the money and that's what turns most politicians into crooks. I've seen some 1st timer candidates that seem like they'll be good and ethical... but one term into the books and they turn into $ chasers and lose focus on the very people that voted for them. And I see that on both sides. Limiting the amount a campaign can spend... and making sure that all competing campaigns spend equally so the playing field is always level would take the bite out of big money corruption. (IMHO).
 
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