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tautology
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Originally posted by kyousukeneko
so i was thinking of pumping my DT to at least a 100 natural strength before i started to consentrait on other points, is this a bad idea?


Probably a bad idea. If you want *really* high strength, stop at 83 or 87 and keep training it from there up as high as you can stand it (while multi-training).

 
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Originally posted by tautology
Probably a bad idea. If you want *really* high strength, stop at 83 or 87 and keep training it from there up as high as you can stand it (while multi-training).



I'd say stop at 83. Multi-train at 30% enhanced (agility, tackling, vision unlocked and 30% enhanced) until it is over 90 and the % gained drops from 6.5(7)% to 3% while multi-training.

While doing this, 2nd cap agility, cap tackling, and cap vision.
Get agility trained up over 90%

then normal train strength at 3% while putting sp into agility until strength hits 100.
Edited by Rage Kinard on Jul 8, 2011 17:48:12
 
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Originally posted by tautology
Originally posted by kyousukeneko

so i was thinking of pumping my DT to at least a 100 natural strength before i started to consentrait on other points, is this a bad idea?


Probably a bad idea. If you want *really* high strength, stop at 83 or 87 and keep training it from there up as high as you can stand it (while multi-training).



i run a three four so i want a very strong NT.
 
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Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Originally posted by tautology

Probably a bad idea. If you want *really* high strength, stop at 83 or 87 and keep training it from there up as high as you can stand it (while multi-training).



I'd say stop at 83. Multi-train at 30% enhanced (agility, tackling, vision unlocked and 30% enhanced) until it is over 90 and the % gained drops from 6.5(7)% to 3% while multi-training.

While doing this, 2nd cap agility, cap tackling, and cap vision.
Get agility trained up over 90%

then normal train strength at 3% while putting sp into agility until strength hits 100.


If you enhance to 40%, you can multi-train at 3.9% (4%) over 91...which is not too terrible in value I think?





Edited by tautology on Jul 8, 2011 18:14:43
 
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Which is about a 100 days til strength rolls over if quad training. Ummm
 
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Originally posted by Rod Long
Which is about a 100 days til strength rolls over if quad training. Ummm


The man said he wanted high strength...it's not like there's a terribly efficient method to get there

That's a little less than two seasons of training (and in the meantime you are also training 3 other attributes at a higher rate).

If you figure a rollover at perhaps 97, that's a .64 SP gain per train (16 x .04).

That's actually a better pure SP value than training at 30 or so.

So it's not inefficient in terms of SP value, the question is whether it's worth taking an attribute to ridiculous levels at all.


 
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But you can normal train and get 3% plus you are getting 2 BT per train. So in 100 days you go up 3 pts from training while collecting extra BT that will allow you to multi-train longer on the back end and still get 3 pieces of AEQ.
 
kyousukeneko
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i should porbably start investing in multiple training, i have just been trying to get 5 start strength training on this guy.
 
Rod Long
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Originally posted by tautology
The man said he wanted high strength...it's not like there's a terribly efficient method to get there

That's a little less than two seasons of training (and in the meantime you are also training 3 other attributes at a higher rate).

If you figure a rollover at perhaps 97, that's a .64 SP gain per train (16 x .04).

That's actually a better pure SP value than training at 30 or so.

So it's not inefficient in terms of SP value, the question is whether it's worth taking an attribute to ridiculous levels at all.




Agreed in value per train but that only happens once every four days, so per day and per train vary by another factor of four.

I did this in the high eighties and am seeing the opportunity cost of the missing sp's and lower ancillary stats. So I have to ask myself if that one more point in str was worth the 8-12 (rough est based on another build without that variable) points in stam, conf, or
 
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And as this question has been posed before.....does any of it really matter for a dt.
 
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Gonna try evasive next with the heavies at 150/100 and pray maybe that works. Lol
 
kyousukeneko
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Originally posted by Rod Long
Agreed in value per train but that only happens once every four days, so per day and per train vary by another factor of four.

I did this in the high eighties and am seeing the opportunity cost of the missing sp's and lower ancillary stats. So I have to ask myself if that one more point in str was worth the 8-12 (rough est based on another build without that variable) points in stam, conf, or


yeah i see that, once it gets high enough i may not be able to do what i want.
 
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Originally posted by Rod Long
Agreed in value per train but that only happens once every four days, so per day and per train vary by another factor of four.

I did this in the high eighties and am seeing the opportunity cost of the missing sp's and lower ancillary stats. So I have to ask myself if that one more point in str was worth the 8-12 (rough est based on another build without that variable) points in stam, conf, or


If he is talking about 100 strength end build, then it isn't really to inefficient. I haven't gotten a DT there yet, but some of my younger players are going to have there first attribute ALG up to 100+ naturally when build is finished.

I agree with you to an extent about the trade off not always being worth it when build is finished; however, positions that only have only have a handful of attributes that matter don't seem to produce that "wish i had those 8-12 SP left," moment at the end. And with a rather limited amount of useful choices to go with on DTs, it seems more likely that you would have a "wish i had brought (insert strength, agility, speed, or tackling) higher" if left with 8-12 SP and confidence or jumping to choose from.
 
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Ok new to DE i love making pass rushers...but for this one; am i goin in the right direction? Teams been sleepy on him lately cuz the low strenght

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2421529
 
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Originally posted by Football Socialist
Ok new to DE i love making pass rushers...but for this one; am i goin in the right direction? Teams been sleepy on him lately cuz the low strenght

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2421529


You need to take attributes to very high caps in glb, particularly along the DL, early in your career. You'll need to take AGI much higher (at least to 77 natural) and then do something similar with speed.

Your str will be low for a while but you can make up for it with block breaking through agility and high speed to make plays.
 
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