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But not all teams adhere to this, they are looking for the easy trophy to try and make themselves feel good about a game....So they get a team in a lower tiered league and stack it with boosters, then pat themselves on the back for being "great". -- That is what we want to do away with.

No matter what you do people will find a way to exploit the system. That has been proven time and again. My beef with this suggestion is it helps the teams that don't need help and puts the screws to everyone else. It would absolutely kill recruiting for teams like mine that rely on free agents to fill gaps. Teams of non-boosters would have a good season in the slum league and then move up to competitive or elite the next season anyway. All this would do is give you one good season.

Originally posted by juicejohnson44
But not all teams adhere to this, they are looking for the easy trophy to try and make themselves feel good about a game....So they get a team in a lower tiered league and stack it with boosters, then pat themselves on the back for being "great". -- That is what we want to do away with.

you see that casual pro team who went from regional casual to pro and gutted cause they lost??

I lol'd....I think they shouldn't allow anyone to even post on this game about how good their team is if they haven't done shit in a reputable league....not championships....just good wins...

Yeah, I don't ever see anyone posting "hell yeah, we whooped that CPU team" in the league forums. Most everyone ignores those games and focuses on the big games.

Originally posted by Dub J
Yeah, I don't ever see anyone posting "hell yeah, we whooped that CPU team" in the league forums. Most everyone ignores those games and focuses on the big games.

I don't see much in the forums at all tbh...saying gg when you win only is kinda sore loserish...

Originally posted by Dub J
BTW...your "stats" are ridiculous. I guess you don't realize that I owned several teams with only my players on the roster (I used to have over 100 players). My team wins one league championship and that put 50 little trophies on my page.

I am against anything that hurts independent teams like mine and helps the big alliances. In other words, this suggestion won't do what you think it will do. It will actually widen the gap and make leagues more unbalanced. Loosening up signing restrictions is better imo.

Even as someone who is actually a part of one of those alliances I agree 100% with Dub J. This will only increase the gap between an independent team and a team that is part of a well connected network. Which sucks for any new users or anyone who is trying to play the game with a small group of friends.

If the rules that exist today had existed when I first found this game in season 3(?) I wouldn't still be here. Most of the teams I first had dots on were middle of the road type teams who weren't affiliated with any network. I learned how to build through those early teams and without them I would have quit the game pretty early on. The way things are set up now it is nearly impossible for a team set up that way to compete at all. Either you are part of a well oiled network or you end up with 255-0 scores every other game.

Originally posted by juicejohnson44

I think this is what the OP's solution is for non-boosters....this would be their "non-boosting league'. The regular leagues; they arent high enough level to be competitive in, but still want all the game planning and tactics that a casual league lacks. This would be the unofficial "non-boosting league", and league for those in decline or experimenting with builds that arent working out as effectively at the start.


Except that in any game like this on the internet you are going to have well connected people who will intentionally get their teams placed in these leagues which will inevitably lead to brutally lopsided outcomes.

-1 to the OP

Originally posted by Dub J
The slum leagues are supposed to be the non-boosting leagues. We were told by the admins that after a season or two of the ABL that the non-boosters would all congregate in the lowest tier of the leagues. Has this been abandoned?

Not with current promotion/demotion system.

- A team rebuilding can show up in regular league and load up with a full roster of full boosters
- Too many teams moves between the tiers, this stick together teams which are separated by huge LV differences.


-1 to OP.
Solution is needed but this is not it. You will need to break down each league to many tiers (more as you get older). considering the full boosting teams takes more then the Elite league (there should be only one) this will be a full structure which as said by Dub J make recruiting even harder.

Bort, every day I see more problems being addressed in less elegant methods. If you employ this sort of method you will only prove to us further that you are too lazy to provide real solutions. A small bandage should not be applied to the severed limb GLB has in this regard.



In case there were some of you wondering.

This would be a -x where x is an arbitrarily large real number to the OP

+1 !

Oh come on, this is silly. I spend tons of money boosting all my players to the max, I dont create more players then I can support. If there were leagues where NO ONE could boost Id just play there all the time as there would be no need to ever boost again, as I would be on a level playing field with everyone else, then where does that leave the business. Now I guess the other side of it is I would take that money and make a LOT more players as I wouldnt have to spend tons of money on them after creating them.

So if this is done, boosting leagues will die, why would ANYONE even bother to do that anymore?

Originally posted by juane414
Lastly, the level ranges should be modified so that there is enough overlap to drive competition and increase revenue. If freeloaders are banned completely from the competitive leagues then no one will ever feel the need or desire to boost. The same would be true if partial boosters are banned entirely from the elite leagues.

I can't see how the level ranges can be adjusted to accomplish what you want and not screw some teams over. You need to actually work through how you plan to do this, and I think when you do that you will start to see the flaws.

Example: Local Minor looks like this right now.

Local Minor Elite #1 Lv27-47 Sugg.
Local Minor Elite #2 Lv28-48 Sugg.
Local Minor Competitive #3 Lv24-42 Sugg.
Local Minor Competitive #4 Lv26-44 Sugg.
Local Minor League #5 Lv20-34 Sugg.

#5 has a 14 lvl gap. How do you plan to adjust this to "level" the playing field?

A team in #3 has a level cap of 42. Lets say they win their league. Do they promote to elite and get killed? Or do they stay where they are?

What if you are a new owner and have a team with 10 of your own fully boosted dots sitting at level 47. But your average age is 42 because that was who you could recruit. Do do you get stuck in elite? Are forced to decide between cutting your own players and playing down a level, or suffering through each season?

Are there enough partial boosting players to fill up a 32 team league at each age level? I just don't see the numbers to justify hurting some teams over this.

-1.

I've got a good business model. Only cater to the 10-20 people that pay thousands of dollars.