Why not just the final 8 of both hemispheres promote to WL?
jtserb
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Just as long as the top 2 teams from Pro teams this year promote to the WL, I will click recommend
supbro
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Originally posted by bug03
Yeah, this is it here... Almost like another hemisphere idea I think somebody told me about once
Except these names would be better:
USA
Canada
South America
Europe
Asia
Africa
Yeah, this is it here... Almost like another hemisphere idea I think somebody told me about once
Except these names would be better:
USA
Canada
South America
Europe
Asia
Africa
Catch22
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Originally posted by supbro
Except these names would be better:
USA
Canada
South America
Europe
Asia
Africa
Names are open for discussion, it's just the general concept that I'd like to discuss. We can always just put the names up for a vote and the top 6 winners are the ones we use.
Except these names would be better:
USA
Canada
South America
Europe
Asia
Africa
Names are open for discussion, it's just the general concept that I'd like to discuss. We can always just put the names up for a vote and the top 6 winners are the ones we use.
Originally posted by Catch22
Added the following idea/premise to the OP - thoughts?
Idea #2
This is a bit of a merger on the Hemisphere idea and how minor leagues work. Basically it would work like this:
Western Hemisphere (equivalent to Elite #1)
Eastern Hemisphere (equivalent to Elite #2)
Western Hemisphere Feeder leagues
North America
South America
Europe
Eastern Hemisphere Feeder leagues
Oceania
Africa
Asia
Promotion/Demotion
The top 8 teams (winner of first round playoff games) from each Hemisphere would promote to World League. The bottom 16 teams (non playoff teams) from World League would demote to Hemisphere. The bottom 16 teams from each Hemisphere (non playoff teams) would demote back down to Feeder leagues. The losers of first round playoff games from each Hemisphere would be the only teams that would remain. There would be 8 open slots for each Hemisphere. They would be taken by the conference championship game participants in each feeder league and then the next 2 best teams based on current tiebreakers (W-L record first).
The bottom four teams from each conference for each feeder league (total of 48 teams) would demote to Regional Pro. Promoting teams from Regional Pro would take those slots.
Better than original idea, but the increased turnover would still decrease pro league (Feeder) enjoyment and bond building.
Barring some other proposal, My preferences for this question are as follows
Stay As It Is Now, not sure what problem there is that requires fixing
Replace World League with 8 National Championship Team "World Cup" playoff on days 41-44
Replace WL with 16 National Championship Team "World Cup" playoff on days 41-45 and add 8 more National Pro Leagues
Your Hemisphere Idea
Added the following idea/premise to the OP - thoughts?
Idea #2
This is a bit of a merger on the Hemisphere idea and how minor leagues work. Basically it would work like this:
Western Hemisphere (equivalent to Elite #1)
Eastern Hemisphere (equivalent to Elite #2)
Western Hemisphere Feeder leagues
North America
South America
Europe
Eastern Hemisphere Feeder leagues
Oceania
Africa
Asia
Promotion/Demotion
The top 8 teams (winner of first round playoff games) from each Hemisphere would promote to World League. The bottom 16 teams (non playoff teams) from World League would demote to Hemisphere. The bottom 16 teams from each Hemisphere (non playoff teams) would demote back down to Feeder leagues. The losers of first round playoff games from each Hemisphere would be the only teams that would remain. There would be 8 open slots for each Hemisphere. They would be taken by the conference championship game participants in each feeder league and then the next 2 best teams based on current tiebreakers (W-L record first).
The bottom four teams from each conference for each feeder league (total of 48 teams) would demote to Regional Pro. Promoting teams from Regional Pro would take those slots.
Better than original idea, but the increased turnover would still decrease pro league (Feeder) enjoyment and bond building.
Barring some other proposal, My preferences for this question are as follows
Stay As It Is Now, not sure what problem there is that requires fixing
Replace World League with 8 National Championship Team "World Cup" playoff on days 41-44
Replace WL with 16 National Championship Team "World Cup" playoff on days 41-45 and add 8 more National Pro Leagues
Your Hemisphere Idea
beenlurken
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Originally posted by Catch22
Edit - Removed original suggestion after discussion. Replaced with below.
Let's face it. It's the only league level that has it's own unique structure and the question is why? The main reason is people want their regional affiliations. I am suggesting that for the good of the game we have to revamp this a bit and make the game about having competitive leagues that make sense. This is a bit of a merger of the Hemispheres suggestion and how the regular minor league structures work. Basically it would work like this:
Western Hemisphere (equivalent to Elite #1)
Eastern Hemisphere (equivalent to Elite #2)
(we can work on the regions that are used here, this is just the general concept being outlined)
Western Hemisphere Feeder leagues
North America
South America
Europe
Eastern Hemisphere Feeder leagues
Oceania
Africa
Asia
Promotion/Demotion
The top 8 teams (winner of first round playoff games) from each Hemisphere would promote to World League. The bottom 16 teams (non playoff teams) from World League would demote to Hemisphere. The bottom 16 teams from each Hemisphere (non playoff teams) would demote back down to Feeder leagues. The losers of first round playoff games from each Hemisphere would be the only teams that would remain. There would be 8 open slots for each Hemisphere. They would be taken by the conference championship game participants in each feeder league and then the next 2 best teams based on current tiebreakers (W-L record first).
The bottom four teams from each conference for each feeder league (total of 48 teams) would demote to Regional Pro. Promoting teams from Regional Pro would take those slots.
Edit - Removed original suggestion after discussion. Replaced with below.
Let's face it. It's the only league level that has it's own unique structure and the question is why? The main reason is people want their regional affiliations. I am suggesting that for the good of the game we have to revamp this a bit and make the game about having competitive leagues that make sense. This is a bit of a merger of the Hemispheres suggestion and how the regular minor league structures work. Basically it would work like this:
Western Hemisphere (equivalent to Elite #1)
Eastern Hemisphere (equivalent to Elite #2)
(we can work on the regions that are used here, this is just the general concept being outlined)
Western Hemisphere Feeder leagues
North America
South America
Europe
Eastern Hemisphere Feeder leagues
Oceania
Africa
Asia
Promotion/Demotion
The top 8 teams (winner of first round playoff games) from each Hemisphere would promote to World League. The bottom 16 teams (non playoff teams) from World League would demote to Hemisphere. The bottom 16 teams from each Hemisphere (non playoff teams) would demote back down to Feeder leagues. The losers of first round playoff games from each Hemisphere would be the only teams that would remain. There would be 8 open slots for each Hemisphere. They would be taken by the conference championship game participants in each feeder league and then the next 2 best teams based on current tiebreakers (W-L record first).
The bottom four teams from each conference for each feeder league (total of 48 teams) would demote to Regional Pro. Promoting teams from Regional Pro would take those slots.
Raiders12
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Originally posted by jallowe
Get rid of Africa and make it Oceania to make TT happy.
Who is TT??
Oceania is a dumb name tbh as it doesn't clearly specify a region in current tense and understanding.
Get rid of Africa and make it Oceania to make TT happy.
Who is TT??
Oceania is a dumb name tbh as it doesn't clearly specify a region in current tense and understanding.
Kenshinzen
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Originally posted by Catch22
Originally posted by supbro
Except these names would be better:
USA
Canada
South America
Europe
Asia
Africa
Names are open for discussion, it's just the general concept that I'd like to discuss. We can always just put the names up for a vote and the top 6 winners are the ones we use.
Still don't understand why we need another tier before WL. Why not make current Pro leagues more competive instead of change the system compeltely?
Originally posted by supbro
Except these names would be better:
USA
Canada
South America
Europe
Asia
Africa
Names are open for discussion, it's just the general concept that I'd like to discuss. We can always just put the names up for a vote and the top 6 winners are the ones we use.
Still don't understand why we need another tier before WL. Why not make current Pro leagues more competive instead of change the system compeltely?
Originally posted by Catch22
Made a couple changes to OP.
1) Demoting WL teams go to Elite - makes no sense to demote them to the other leagues.
2) Changed the structure a bit so that winning league championship game in Normal league = Promotion to WL.
Made a couple changes to OP.
1) Demoting WL teams go to Elite - makes no sense to demote them to the other leagues.
2) Changed the structure a bit so that winning league championship game in Normal league = Promotion to WL.
Originally posted by Kenshinzen
Originally posted by Catch22
Originally posted by supbro
Except these names would be better:
USA
Canada
South America
Europe
Asia
Africa
Names are open for discussion, it's just the general concept that I'd like to discuss. We can always just put the names up for a vote and the top 6 winners are the ones we use.
Still don't understand why we need another tier before WL. Why not make current Pro leagues more competive instead of change the system compeltely?
holy shit, did bort turn off competitiveness at the pro level?
maybe if he just flipped that switch back on it'd fix everything.
Originally posted by Catch22
Originally posted by supbro
Except these names would be better:
USA
Canada
South America
Europe
Asia
Africa
Names are open for discussion, it's just the general concept that I'd like to discuss. We can always just put the names up for a vote and the top 6 winners are the ones we use.
Still don't understand why we need another tier before WL. Why not make current Pro leagues more competive instead of change the system compeltely?
holy shit, did bort turn off competitiveness at the pro level?
maybe if he just flipped that switch back on it'd fix everything.
beenlurken
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Originally posted by Kenshinzen
Originally posted by Catch22
Originally posted by supbro
Except these names would be better:
USA
Canada
South America
Europe
Asia
Africa
Names are open for discussion, it's just the general concept that I'd like to discuss. We can always just put the names up for a vote and the top 6 winners are the ones we use.
Still don't understand why we need another tier before WL. Why not make current Pro leagues more competive instead of change the system compeltely?
This is the only way to make Pro leagues more competitive...
Originally posted by Catch22
Originally posted by supbro
Except these names would be better:
USA
Canada
South America
Europe
Asia
Africa
Names are open for discussion, it's just the general concept that I'd like to discuss. We can always just put the names up for a vote and the top 6 winners are the ones we use.
Still don't understand why we need another tier before WL. Why not make current Pro leagues more competive instead of change the system compeltely?
This is the only way to make Pro leagues more competitive...
Raiders12
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Originally posted by Kenshinzen
Still don't understand why we need another tier before WL. Why not make current Pro leagues more competive instead of change the system compeltely?
I don't think this is adding another tier from what we have already....actually it is a combing of the Pro and Regional Pro into something more effective and competitive, unless I misunderstood the original idea.
Still don't understand why we need another tier before WL. Why not make current Pro leagues more competive instead of change the system compeltely?
I don't think this is adding another tier from what we have already....actually it is a combing of the Pro and Regional Pro into something more effective and competitive, unless I misunderstood the original idea.
jallowe
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Make the Hemispheres the top 2 leagues (remove WL), then have the 2 winners from those leagues play on day 40. That mean they play on odd days so the finals of the hemisphere leagues would be on day 39.
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