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Deathblade
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Originally posted by Sik Wit It
Oh. DB. Got it. Well I have to admit he does have it coming to him sometimes.


what did i get
 
Deathblade
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Originally posted by redwing
It doesn't really matter because you assholes look at us all as complainers and can make it without us. It doesn't really matter at this point anyway because i am in the process of gutting my team and selling it back anyway. I just thought i'd be a voice for us guys that are getting fucked, that's all. Don't take it personally at all, but your asshole buddy can take it personally, and i'd like to buy him a beer, then gut him with the bottle after i break it over his head. At this point our bitches are falling on deaf ears anyway.


oh wow

u so mad
 
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Originally posted by Team Nucleus
I've had my Gravediggers since Season 8.Never demoted and always have paid for everyones EQ.
Now I can make a little profit and its going to be taken away.Same for my ILOF Allstars.
I did everything right yet the team is about to get robbed by getting a reset.
How about a full game reset if thats what we are doing.Refund everyone their flex and start over.
This is a whole new game now isn't it?


I wouldn't say its a whole new game. A new Financial system. Also your money is not getting taken from you. You will be able to spend whatever money you have over on the following.

Can use 100% of value for stadium construction
Can use 50% of value for team promotions (items purchased will cost twice what they normally do)
Can use 20% of value for seasonal team possessions (items purchased will cost five times what they normally do)


Why would you want to keep all of your cash anyway? Just to stare at it? You don't need it anymore for EQ.
 
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stealing team cash is just wrong. it doesnt even matter how a team got its stash. the sim allowed them to do it, so it was allowed. but punishing people for as bort calls it "exploiting" the sim is just stupid. every living thing exploits its enviroment just about everytime it gets a chance. its the nature of life in general. its natureal for people to try to find out the most effecient way to do something.

if bort didnt want this to happen, then he needs to look in the mirror. its HIS own code or lack there of that allowed this. everybody in life exploits something period. when u do your taxes, u find everyway possible to exploit the system. or find loop holes to slide thru. bort do u do that??? im sure u do. irs dont intend for us to, but we do.

when you charge us money to play this game...and then we build our dot for 8,9, 10+ seasons and this you have a turd up your azz and decide to hit a button and change chit around and render our dot useless without giving us a FULL RESET of our SKILL POINTS,EQ,AEQ,VAs and SAs thats a form of explortation also!!!! we spent alot of months,days,hours, minutes and seconds of pride building that dot that you nerf with a flip of a button so easily. its just not right dude.

also it seems your whole theme for this next offseason is channeled towards taking away from us(cash) or our dot, team or our time. take take take. nothing good comes from this.

suggestion is to not take team cash away.
 
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Originally posted by DTRAIN
stealing team cash is just wrong. it doesnt even matter how a team got its stash. the sim allowed them to do it, so it was allowed. but punishing people for as bort calls it "exploiting" the sim is just stupid. every living thing exploits its enviroment just about everytime it gets a chance. its the nature of life in general. its natureal for people to try to find out the most effecient way to do something.

if bort didnt want this to happen, then he needs to look in the mirror. its HIS own code or lack there of that allowed this. everybody in life exploits something period. when u do your taxes, u find everyway possible to exploit the system. or find loop holes to slide thru. bort do u do that??? im sure u do. irs dont intend for us to, but we do.

when you charge us money to play this game...and then we build our dot for 8,9, 10+ seasons and this you have a turd up your azz and decide to hit a button and change chit around and render our dot useless without giving us a FULL RESET of our SKILL POINTS,EQ,AEQ,VAs and SAs thats a form of explortation also!!!! we spent alot of months,days,hours, minutes and seconds of pride building that dot that you nerf with a flip of a button so easily. its just not right dude.

also it seems your whole theme for this next offseason is channeled towards taking away from us(cash) or our dot, team or our time. take take take. nothing good comes from this.

suggestion is to not take team cash away.


Elite Minors Lv 34 #2 (Alpha Conference)
Cash: $112,578,231.34

Minors Lv 18 #7 (Eastern Conference)
Cash: $51,964,628.00

Competitive Minors Lv 26 #3 (Zeta Conference)
Cash: $129,387,117.52

Competitive Minors Lv 22 #5 (Alpha Conference)
Cash: $57,209,663.00

Minors Lv 46 #6 (Eastern Conference)
Cash: $110,279,530.76

Nice to see you aren't trying to protect your own interests.
 
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Originally posted by DTRAIN
stealing team cash is just wrong. it doesnt even matter how a team got its stash. the sim allowed them to do it, so it was allowed. but punishing people for as bort calls it "exploiting" the sim is just stupid. every living thing exploits its enviroment just about everytime it gets a chance. its the nature of life in general. its natureal for people to try to find out the most effecient way to do something.

if bort didnt want this to happen, then he needs to look in the mirror. its HIS own code or lack there of that allowed this. everybody in life exploits something period. when u do your taxes, u find everyway possible to exploit the system. or find loop holes to slide thru. bort do u do that??? im sure u do. irs dont intend for us to, but we do.

when you charge us money to play this game...and then we build our dot for 8,9, 10+ seasons and this you have a turd up your azz and decide to hit a button and change chit around and render our dot useless without giving us a FULL RESET of our SKILL POINTS,EQ,AEQ,VAs and SAs thats a form of explortation also!!!! we spent alot of months,days,hours, minutes and seconds of pride building that dot that you nerf with a flip of a button so easily. its just not right dude.

also it seems your whole theme for this next offseason is channeled towards taking away from us(cash) or our dot, team or our time. take take take. nothing good comes from this.

suggestion is to not take team cash away.


Problem is he is making money practically worthless for players. Still in some how it affects there morale. What do players do with money now. Lets have 1.34 million dollars in that players account. I have so much fake money. Like I have said nurmoius times. Change for the Sake of change doesnt work. And do fix something that is not broke.
 
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Originally posted by Team Nucleus
IMPORTANT NOTE - in order to implement these changes and have teams start out on a level playing field, teams will all be reset to a standard team cash amount depending on what league you are in. If your current team cash is in excess of this amount the amount that it is over will be put into a Overage Account. The Overage Account can be used as follows:

Can use 100% of value for stadium construction
Can use 50% of value for team promotions (items purchased will cost twice what they normally do)
Can use 20% of value for seasonal team possessions (items purchased will cost five times what they normally do)

Team Cash Reset Amounts

WL/Pro - $30,000,000
AAA - $25,000,000
AA/Uncapped - $20,000,000
Level 46 - $16,000,000
Level 42 - $14,000,000
Level 38 - $12,000,000
Level 34 - $10,000,000
Level 30 - $8,000,000
Level 26 - $6,000,000
Level 22 - $4,000,000
Level 18 - $2,000,000
Level 14 - $1,500,000
Level 4 - $1,500,000


This right here is bullshit.Your punishing teams that are run correctly.Why touch their profits?
Profit is profit.You profit off the game itself right?
Would you like it if the community was to take back its money and take your profit so all MMO's are on a level playing field?


o_O


I agree 100% here! I am just a player but I hear where he is coming from.
This is such BS. It will never happen but with all of these new BS changes you should give everyone back their money on these points we bought because you are making it to the point people do not want to play anymore, even those of us who have played it right from the start. All these changes are insane. I undertand punishing people who have done wrong man, but when you keep screwing with things and people who have done nothing but played right and within the guidelines it is just as Team Nucleus said, bullshit.
I swear to God man, this game seems to get less and less fun every season and now it is getting that way during the seasons.
Edited by river wolf on Apr 19, 2010 08:06:38
 
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Originally posted by river wolf
I agree 100% here! I am just a player but I hear where he is coming from.
This is such BS. It will never happen but with all of these new BS changes you should give everyone back their money on these points we bought because you are making it to the point people do not want to play anymore, even those of us who have played it right from the start. All these changes are insane. I undertand punishing people who have done wrong man, but when you keep screwing with things and people who have done nothing but played right and within the guidelines it is just as Team Nucleus said, bullshit.
I swear to God man, this game seems to get less and less funn every season and now it is getting that way during the seasons.


I have to agree. For instance, my team is not that old and started from scratch with default cash/stadium. We have been successful enough and now have 20m in bank and 19.5m or so in EQ fund. So, now because other teams abused the system you all set-up and have scads of cash we get to be penalized and reset too? Where is the justice in that? I'm seriously contemplating selling them now, TBH. About 50/50 on it, but will be making the decision before S16.
 
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Originally posted by redwing
I can't believe that we are actually mentioning free popcorn day as giving your team a morale bonus!?? I thought this was football, tell me HOW the team giving out free popcorn makes the players play better? In real life do you think the GD players really give a shit about free popcorn or hot dogs? ridiculous!


It makes the people in the stadium happy, which makes them more into the game, louder, etc. That will directly affect players.
 
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with team cash reset coming
want to make sure this is clear
I understand what happens w/ cash over reset amount going into overage account
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if a team has less than the reset amount
then the team cash will go up to the reset amount depending on level
 
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Originally posted by racingboy20
It makes the people in the stadium happy, which makes them more into the game, louder, etc. That will directly affect players.


That is the biggest line of BS I ever read & should have nothing to do with a RL sim that has so many other inherent problems in it. Let's quit diverting the attention from them with all this nonsense!!!
 
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Now that we're in salary cap/maintenance expense/promotion/cash redistribution/financial upgrade phase...Has any effort been put forth to not make a ticket sale simulation where a $1 swing in a section price can be the difference between selling out 5 games or selling none at all in one day?
 
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I think Bort should do a profit reset too and refund all of our money then. It's only fair. I mean tell me how this system hasn't been worked since most of us who have been here for a while hasn't been worked. Nerf this, nerf that, change that aspect, remove that aspect, reset the money and punish everyone. This is rediculous.
This is only my 2nd post in this forum, but I am pissed enough to make statements finally and not just sit by and deal with it.
Do you think we will see a "reset" of the money we spent on this game even tho in many ways we got worked BY the system and continue to do so? Me either.

Why should everyone now be punished because some people did something wrong? If some did something within the rules and now they just do not like it because the people do not have to spend more real money right now because they have been playing within the rules and better than they wanted them to or thought they would, tough shit. But because they have the magic button they are going to just screw everyone. Why? Because they can. That seems fair, right? But the whole reason they claim to be doing this is for fairness. Seems a bit hypocritical to me, but what do I know? I was one of the idiots who paid for Dotball and not the ones with th magic buttons collecting it who can make whatever I want happen because I collected the money from fools like me.
Edited by river wolf on Apr 19, 2010 08:44:03
 
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Originally posted by davelklatzen
Originally posted by sjmay

Originally posted by Team Nucleus


IMPORTANT NOTE - in order to implement these changes and have teams start out on a level playing field, teams will all be reset to a standard team cash amount depending on what league you are in. If your current team cash is in excess of this amount the amount that it is over will be put into a Overage Account. The Overage Account can be used as follows:

Can use 100% of value for stadium construction
Can use 50% of value for team promotions (items purchased will cost twice what they normally do)
Can use 20% of value for seasonal team possessions (items purchased will cost five times what they normally do)

Team Cash Reset Amounts

WL/Pro - $30,000,000
AAA - $25,000,000
AA/Uncapped - $20,000,000
Level 46 - $16,000,000
Level 42 - $14,000,000
Level 38 - $12,000,000
Level 34 - $10,000,000
Level 30 - $8,000,000
Level 26 - $6,000,000
Level 22 - $4,000,000
Level 18 - $2,000,000
Level 14 - $1,500,000
Level 4 - $1,500,000


This right here is bullshit.Your punishing teams that are run correctly.Why touch their profits?
Profit is profit.You profit off the game itself right?
Would you like it if the community was to take back its money and take your profit so all MMO's are on a level playing field?


o_O


Dropping to LVL 14 cap with 50 million in cash is not run correctly

Nice try though



but when it is a team that is only a couple of seasons old that has made profits?

That is a team thats run correctly



 
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Originally posted by racingboy20
Originally posted by redwing

I can't believe that we are actually mentioning free popcorn day as giving your team a morale bonus!?? I thought this was football, tell me HOW the team giving out free popcorn makes the players play better? In real life do you think the GD players really give a shit about free popcorn or hot dogs? ridiculous!


It makes the people in the stadium happy, which makes them more into the game, louder, etc. That will directly affect players.


yeah, way to stick to the basic that made people want to play this shit...

fuck your popcorn!
 
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