Originally posted by taurran
It needs to happen.
And if it doesnīt, grab your soon-to-be obsolete VAs now.
It needs to happen.
And if it doesnīt, grab your soon-to-be obsolete VAs now.
Forum > Game Changes Discussion > Problem with the VA's being converted to SA's
taurran
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Originally posted by coachingubigr
inb4l
I'd just post it again if they had an issue with the title, because this needs to be changed.
Yes, I have a vision of a bunch of monkeys sitting around banging on laptops to code GLB. The constant changes, loopholes, and moving targets implemented season to season are just sloppy.
inb4l
I'd just post it again if they had an issue with the title, because this needs to be changed.
Yes, I have a vision of a bunch of monkeys sitting around banging on laptops to code GLB. The constant changes, loopholes, and moving targets implemented season to season are just sloppy.
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Originally posted by taurran
Jackhammer, Zone Specialist, and Scat Back.
There, everyone knows it. Go drop a point in each one of these and you'll get around actually having to pick those archtypes.
Real fing stupid game design that is catering to those that are "in the know" right now. Why they couldn't just force a reset on them is completely beyond me.
So, Catch makes it completely public that if you have points in those VAs, you can continue to invest in them, but that the SA version of them won't stack with the VA, and you're angry because?
You don't have to pick "those archetypes" to get the ability. If you wanted, you could pick a man cover CB, but invest in Zone Specialist. You don't have to pick Zone archetype to get Zone Specialist.
Jackhammer, Zone Specialist, and Scat Back.
There, everyone knows it. Go drop a point in each one of these and you'll get around actually having to pick those archtypes.
Real fing stupid game design that is catering to those that are "in the know" right now. Why they couldn't just force a reset on them is completely beyond me.
So, Catch makes it completely public that if you have points in those VAs, you can continue to invest in them, but that the SA version of them won't stack with the VA, and you're angry because?
You don't have to pick "those archetypes" to get the ability. If you wanted, you could pick a man cover CB, but invest in Zone Specialist. You don't have to pick Zone archetype to get Zone Specialist.
Originally posted by taurran
I dont know... Scat back and Zone specialist VAs are pretty darn powerful.
I agree with the information sharing problem. Only the people in networks or those that scour the forums n a daily basis for the newest buzz and insider info are going to be aware of this. It's why I wanted to bring it to light on the main forum and see about getting support for a full mandatory reset on these VAs in order to balance the system.
It needs to happen.
They are, but the VA versions of these are supposed to be much more powerful than the SA version that they are about to implement. If you want Scat Back, Zone Specialist, or Jackhammer on your player, you're better off having it as a VA as opposed to picking it as your new SA.
This is their way of nerfing down those abilities without pissing off all the people who have built their players around these VA's.
I dont know... Scat back and Zone specialist VAs are pretty darn powerful.
I agree with the information sharing problem. Only the people in networks or those that scour the forums n a daily basis for the newest buzz and insider info are going to be aware of this. It's why I wanted to bring it to light on the main forum and see about getting support for a full mandatory reset on these VAs in order to balance the system.
It needs to happen.
They are, but the VA versions of these are supposed to be much more powerful than the SA version that they are about to implement. If you want Scat Back, Zone Specialist, or Jackhammer on your player, you're better off having it as a VA as opposed to picking it as your new SA.
This is their way of nerfing down those abilities without pissing off all the people who have built their players around these VA's.
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Originally posted by Staz
Originally posted by taurran
Jackhammer, Zone Specialist, and Scat Back.
There, everyone knows it. Go drop a point in each one of these and you'll get around actually having to pick those archtypes.
Real fing stupid game design that is catering to those that are "in the know" right now. Why they couldn't just force a reset on them is completely beyond me.
So, Catch makes it completely public that if you have points in those VAs, you can continue to invest in them, but that the SA version of them won't stack with the VA, and you're angry because?
You don't have to pick "those archetypes" to get the ability. If you wanted, you could pick a man cover CB, but invest in Zone Specialist. You don't have to pick Zone archetype to get Zone Specialist.
Note to you - they're removing Zone Specialist, Scat Back, and Jackhammer.
So no, you can't just get them.
Originally posted by taurran
Jackhammer, Zone Specialist, and Scat Back.
There, everyone knows it. Go drop a point in each one of these and you'll get around actually having to pick those archtypes.
Real fing stupid game design that is catering to those that are "in the know" right now. Why they couldn't just force a reset on them is completely beyond me.
So, Catch makes it completely public that if you have points in those VAs, you can continue to invest in them, but that the SA version of them won't stack with the VA, and you're angry because?
You don't have to pick "those archetypes" to get the ability. If you wanted, you could pick a man cover CB, but invest in Zone Specialist. You don't have to pick Zone archetype to get Zone Specialist.
Note to you - they're removing Zone Specialist, Scat Back, and Jackhammer.
So no, you can't just get them.
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I also think this decision is not so good. Should just remove the 3 VAs and allow a full VA reset, but what do I know? I'm just a peon.
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Originally posted by carumba10
Very mickey mouse, although not surprising.
HIT ..nail on the head
Very mickey mouse, although not surprising.
HIT ..nail on the head
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Originally posted by taurran
Note to you - they're removing Zone Specialist, Scat Back, and Jackhammer.
So no, you can't just get them.
Note to you, this information is on the public forum, in the appropriate areas. If you don't follow up on the game, then don't get pissy when you miss out on some information. Props to you for moving this information to the GLB main forum, but I'm not feeling the whole
part of this.
Edit: They're not removing them, they're turning them into SAs.
Note to you - they're removing Zone Specialist, Scat Back, and Jackhammer.
So no, you can't just get them.
Note to you, this information is on the public forum, in the appropriate areas. If you don't follow up on the game, then don't get pissy when you miss out on some information. Props to you for moving this information to the GLB main forum, but I'm not feeling the whole
part of this.Edit: They're not removing them, they're turning them into SAs.
Edited by Staz on Mar 16, 2010 06:35:41
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Originally posted by Staz
So, Catch makes it completely public that if you have points in those VAs, you can continue to invest in them, but that the SA version of them won't stack with the VA, and you're angry because?
TBQH, I now know about it, roughly where itīs supposed to be and who posted the info, but I canīt find it. Now imagine I werenīt even looking for it. And you call this a good information policy because?
So, Catch makes it completely public that if you have points in those VAs, you can continue to invest in them, but that the SA version of them won't stack with the VA, and you're angry because?
TBQH, I now know about it, roughly where itīs supposed to be and who posted the info, but I canīt find it. Now imagine I werenīt even looking for it. And you call this a good information policy because?
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Originally posted by mbinger
Originally posted by taurran
I dont know... Scat back and Zone specialist VAs are pretty darn powerful.
I agree with the information sharing problem. Only the people in networks or those that scour the forums n a daily basis for the newest buzz and insider info are going to be aware of this. It's why I wanted to bring it to light on the main forum and see about getting support for a full mandatory reset on these VAs in order to balance the system.
It needs to happen.
They are, but the VA versions of these are supposed to be much more powerful than the SA version that they are about to implement. If you want Scat Back, Zone Specialist, or Jackhammer on your player, you're better off having it as a VA as opposed to picking it as your new SA.
This is their way of nerfing down those abilities without pissing off all the people who have built their players around these VA's.
People don't build players around Zone Specialist and Scat Back. Those were borderline exploits as-is.
If people really wanted their players to fill those roles they'd pick the new archtype. Currently, people are doing stuff like stacking Shutdown Coverage, Ball Hawk, and Zone Speclialist, and having a CB that can do it all. They're also doing stuff like making power HBs with 48 catching, and using Scat Back to turn that HB into a power pass catcher. That stuff doesn't fall into the scope of the new Archtype system. There's no use in letting this continue because people were NOT building players specifically for these VAs in the first place.
Originally posted by taurran
I dont know... Scat back and Zone specialist VAs are pretty darn powerful.
I agree with the information sharing problem. Only the people in networks or those that scour the forums n a daily basis for the newest buzz and insider info are going to be aware of this. It's why I wanted to bring it to light on the main forum and see about getting support for a full mandatory reset on these VAs in order to balance the system.
It needs to happen.
They are, but the VA versions of these are supposed to be much more powerful than the SA version that they are about to implement. If you want Scat Back, Zone Specialist, or Jackhammer on your player, you're better off having it as a VA as opposed to picking it as your new SA.
This is their way of nerfing down those abilities without pissing off all the people who have built their players around these VA's.
People don't build players around Zone Specialist and Scat Back. Those were borderline exploits as-is.
If people really wanted their players to fill those roles they'd pick the new archtype. Currently, people are doing stuff like stacking Shutdown Coverage, Ball Hawk, and Zone Speclialist, and having a CB that can do it all. They're also doing stuff like making power HBs with 48 catching, and using Scat Back to turn that HB into a power pass catcher. That stuff doesn't fall into the scope of the new Archtype system. There's no use in letting this continue because people were NOT building players specifically for these VAs in the first place.
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Originally posted by Kevin Smith
TBQH, I now know about it, roughly where itīs supposed to be and who posted the info, but I canīt find it. Now imagine I werenīt even looking for it. And you call this a good information policy because?
Do I disagree that sometimes things are hard to find? Nope, but this one was easy enough:
Goal Line Blitz > Game Changes Discussion > New Special Abilities
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3813224&page=1#33896325
TBQH, I now know about it, roughly where itīs supposed to be and who posted the info, but I canīt find it. Now imagine I werenīt even looking for it. And you call this a good information policy because?
Do I disagree that sometimes things are hard to find? Nope, but this one was easy enough:
Goal Line Blitz > Game Changes Discussion > New Special Abilities
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3813224&page=1#33896325
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Originally posted by Staz
Originally posted by taurran
Note to you - they're removing Zone Specialist, Scat Back, and Jackhammer.
So no, you can't just get them.
Note to you, this information is on the public forum, in the appropriate areas. If you don't follow up on the game, then don't get pissy when you miss out on some information. Props to you for moving this information to the GLB main forum, but I'm not feeling the whole part of this.
Edit: They're not removing them, they're turning them into SAs.
You're obviously bias and bitter that I let your exploit out in the open.
Are you f'ing kidding me? Stating that just because it was posted on page 15x of a long QA thread, that everyone should know it? I'm pretty sure the people with actual lives who don't sit around all day reading GLB threads would beg to differ...
Originally posted by taurran
Note to you - they're removing Zone Specialist, Scat Back, and Jackhammer.
So no, you can't just get them.
Note to you, this information is on the public forum, in the appropriate areas. If you don't follow up on the game, then don't get pissy when you miss out on some information. Props to you for moving this information to the GLB main forum, but I'm not feeling the whole part of this.
Edit: They're not removing them, they're turning them into SAs.
You're obviously bias and bitter that I let your exploit out in the open.
Are you f'ing kidding me? Stating that just because it was posted on page 15x of a long QA thread, that everyone should know it? I'm pretty sure the people with actual lives who don't sit around all day reading GLB threads would beg to differ...
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