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Time Trial
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by Time Trial

More important than blocking on a TE that likely won't be doing much blocking.

Please stop posting until you grasp points that have already been addressed.


Keep the personal attacks down. Or are you Bort and when you say shit like:

Originally posted by Bortakajdbolick
That doesn't really make a lot of sense to me, since I don't think that jumping is as important as you guys are making it out to be. If you're only going to take it to 60 or so, then the ALG doesn't even really matter.


It makes it seem like you know how we should be building this position better than other people. I am advocating adding jumping, you disagree. Keep it to that instead of trying to say who can and cannot grasp the current issue.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Because the more you add, the more it dilutes the ALG. You get 2 points to divide among the majors, and 1 point to divide among the minors. Adding another minor would take the ALG for those down to 0.25. They may eventually decide that it's worth it, but you'd be sacrificing points in the other three minors just to get a little bit in jumping. That doesn't really make a lot of sense to me, since I don't think that jumping is as important as you guys are making it out to be. If you're only going to take it to 60 or so, then the ALG doesn't even really matter.


 
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Originally posted by bhall43
if this was about appropriate...the HB Scat Back, FB Scat Back, HB Combo, and FB Combo all wouldn't have jumping with the Receiving or Power TE not.

And if it is an issue of Stamina...than this should be a minor across the motherfucking board...all positions. Simple as that. It currently is not.


 
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Originally posted by tetura
I don't see why you can't just add Jumping as one of the minors. QBs, HBs & FBs all have 4 minors, why not TEs too? doesn't seem like that would make them overpowered or anything, and blocking would still be in there, but jumping certainly more important to RTEs than blocking.


as it is for the Power TE.
Edited by bhall43 on Feb 23, 2010 18:11:38
 
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Originally posted by Time Trial
Keep the personal attacks down. Or are you Bort and when you say shit like.

Dude, when you keep bringing up shit that has already been addressed, you can't expect someone to have robotic patience in continuing to give you the same information with the futile hope that you will somehow get it the 16th time posted. I asked you to please stop posting until you show that you understand what has already been posted. It's a reasonable request.

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It makes it seem like you know how we should be building this position better than other people. I am advocating adding jumping, you disagree. Keep it to that instead of trying to say who can and cannot grasp the current issue.

Well I do know how to build better than you do, but that certainly doesn't mean I know everything. Ultimately, however, unless you're talking about taking jumping to 70+ then I'm not understanding why getting ALGs in jumping is even important to you. Is that what you're planning? If so, feel free to explain why. If not, then just let it drop.


Originally posted by bhall43
And if it is an issue of Stamina...than this should be a minor across the motherfucking board...all positions. Simple as that. It currently is not.

Not my call. If it was, I would have stamina as a minor for all archetypes.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Not my call. If it was, I would have stamina as a minor for all archetypes.


The point isnt even really stamina...its jumping for TE's. As i said...if it were an issue of Stamina...it would be for all position. You are just throwing out ridiculous arguments against it. Which is absolutely retarded.

And seriously...

Originally posted by jdbolick

Well I do know how to build better than you do,


Get over yourself already. You have been stroking your own e-peen all night. There would be no problem with taking jumping to 70+.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
The point isnt even really stamina...its jumping for TE's. As i said...if it were an issue of Stamina...it would be for all position. You are just throwing out ridiculous arguments against it. Which is absolutely retarded.

Stamina is included for almost every position, so clearly that was part of the rationale. My arguments aren't ridiculous at all, you just don't like what you're hearing because you want to be a petulant child constantly demanding jumping. No explanation is ever going to sway you.

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Get over yourself already. You have been stroking your own e-peen all night. There would be no problem with taking jumping to 70+.

TT is the one who brought up my building skills, and the reality is that I am an "expert" on this stuff if there even is such a thing. As for jumping, of course it's possible for someone to take jumping to 70+. That's not the point. My question was whether or not someone actually intended to do so. If not, then worrying about the ALG seems pretty damn pointless. Meanwhile I sincerely doubt that anyone is going to take jumping to 70+ even if it is a minor, since that would mean sacrificing points in speed, agility, catching, or carrying.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Stamina is included for almost every position, so clearly that was part of the rationale. My arguments aren't ridiculous at all, you just don't like what you're hearing because you want to be a petulant child constantly demanding jumping. No explanation is ever going to sway you.


Stamina isnt included in Rushing QB, Scat FB, or Combo FB...this what people are referring to. But as I said...the issue isn't even really stamina...it is jumping. There are 4 minors for every position except TE. Add jumping. It only makes sense...except to you.

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TT is the one who brought up my building skills, and the reality is that I am an "expert" on this stuff if there even is such a thing. As for jumping, of course it's possible for someone to take jumping to 70+. That's not the point. My question was whether or not someone actually intended to do so. If not, then worrying about the ALG seems pretty damn pointless. Meanwhile I sincerely doubt that anyone is going to take jumping to 70+ even if it is a minor, since that would mean sacrificing points in speed, agility, catching, or carrying.


Again...get over yourself.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Stamina isnt included in Rushing QB, Scat FB, or Combo FB...this what people are referring to. But as I said...the issue isn't even really stamina...it is jumping. There are 4 minors for every position except TE. Add jumping. It only makes sense...except to you.

What? WRs, OL, DL, K, P, STOP, & Returners also have only three minors. In fact, no position with five majors also has four minors. I'm not saying it can't be done or even that it necessarily shouldn't, I'm just explaining the rationale behind it. You not wanting to accept that reasoning is really not my problem or anyone else's but your own.

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Again...get over yourself.

I'm a narcissist with a long history of achievements (with anything in GLB being at the very end of the list). Don't hold your breath.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

What? WRs, OL, DL, K, P, STOP, & Returners also have only three minors. In fact, no position with five majors also has four minors. I'm not saying it can't be done or even that it necessarily shouldn't, I'm just explaining the rationale behind it. You not wanting to accept that reasoning is really not my problem or anyone else's but your own.


i concede the point since i didnt realize the majors were different upon first glance as I was only looking at Combo FB's majors in depth. Which does have 5 Majors and 4 Minors.

Originally posted by

I'm a narcissist with a long history of achievements (with anything in GLB being at the very end of the list). Don't hold your breath.


We don't care about your e-peenage. When you dominate this game to its fullest, then stroke it all you want...until then...your e-peen stroking isnt impressing anyone.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Meanwhile I sincerely doubt that anyone is going to take jumping to 70+ even if it is a minor, since that would mean sacrificing points in speed, agility, catching, or carrying.


Custom slots?85 speed/90 agility 80 catch/jump/75 carry/str.... 15 prime time player/posessionwr/reliable/go to guy. 3 pieces of aeq with 15 sticky hands/10 coverup... take the % hit on catch ball and go 2 pieces of aeq stack that shit at 34.5% and then on 3rd down have fucking god mode when 3rd and goal from the 5 or in ?!?! Maybe have him work up clock manager as a 5th va, and just have him be a fucking god.
 
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Originally posted by David Stern
Custom slots?85 speed/90 agility 80 catch/jump/75 carry/str.... 15 prime time player/posessionwr/reliable/go to guy. 3 pieces of aeq with 15 sticky hands/10 coverup... take the % hit on catch ball and go 2 pieces of aeq stack that shit at 34.5% and then on 3rd down have fucking god mode when 3rd and goal from the 5 or in ?!?! Maybe have him work up clock manager as a 5th va, and just have him be a fucking god.


nope...there is no use for intentionally making jumping higher than 70...im sorry.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
We don't care about your e-peenage. When you dominate this game to its fullest, then stroke it all you want...until then...your e-peen stroking isnt impressing anyone.

If you don't care, then ignore it. If other people also don't care, then they shouldn't bring it. Remember, I didn't.


Originally posted by David Stern
Custom slots?85 speed/90 agility 80 catch/jump/75 carry/str.... 15 prime time player/posessionwr/reliable/go to guy. 3 pieces of aeq with 15 sticky hands/10 coverup... take the % hit on catch ball and go 2 pieces of aeq stack that shit at 34.5% and then on 3rd down have fucking god mode when 3rd and goal from the 5 or in ?!?! Maybe have him work up clock manager as a 5th va, and just have him be a fucking god.

Theoretically interesting as a situational player, but I sincerely doubt that anyone is going that route.

 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Theoretically interesting as a situational player, but I sincerely doubt that anyone is going that route.



If you cant see the interest in building a TE with 70+ jumping. Not just as situational. You may not be the expert you think you are.
 
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This isn't changing. Locking thread as the discussion is meaningless at this point.
 
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