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bhall43
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Originally posted by tuba_samurai
Is it really that big a deal. At most you would soft cap it, so just train it up with str, stamina, and/or catching. Now that you can keep TEs in to block on blitzes, having blocking as an ALG makes sense.




Originally posted by jdbolick

Blocking is definitely important, but that's not really the point anyway. As for the latter, receiving TEs seem to suck pretty much regardless with a handful of exceptions. We have a guy with a great build and have tried everything possible to get him the ball, but it just hasn't worked for the last few seasons.



Originally posted by jdbolick

Play some WL defenses and then talk to me about how open TEs get.




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http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=684491

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Williamson is a freak. No other TE in the World League has even half that many yards, and only three others even go above 400 yards.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Williamson is a freak. No other TE in the World League has even half that many yards, and only three others even go above 400 yards.


they could if you designed the offense more around them. i like to spread the ball out tho more myself which leads many of our guys out of the running when it comes to stat leaders.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
they could if you designed the offense more around them. i like to spread the ball out tho more myself which leads many of our guys out of the running when it comes to stat leaders.

*shrug* Only thing I can go by is what I fear as a DC, and it isn't TEs. Rum Jum toasted me because I was an idiot and left the TE uncovered in one new custom play, but aside from that they just don't seem to do a whole lot in this sim. Maybe if they held onto the ball better, but it seems like they get far more possible completions knocked loose even if they have the proper carrying and VAs.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by bhall43

they could if you designed the offense more around them. i like to spread the ball out tho more myself which leads many of our guys out of the running when it comes to stat leaders.

*shrug* Only thing I can go by is what I fear as a DC, and it isn't TEs. Rum Jum toasted me because I was an idiot and left the TE uncovered in one new custom play, but aside from that they just don't seem to do a whole lot in this sim. Maybe if they held onto the ball better, but it seems like they get far more possible completions knocked loose even if they have the proper carrying and VAs.


Yeah the TE isn't like what it was back when we were competing in Canada...TE was BIG back then!
 
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Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
I think the reason RTEs don't get jumping is because they're TEs and TEs don't jump. Maybe once in a while you see Antonio Gates or Vernon Davis high enough to slip a tissue under his cleats. But Witten, Clark, Daniels, Shockey, those guys are glued to the ground they may not block a lot, but they block more than they jump. Having alg only really matters on stats that go well beyond the first cap, jumping just isn't gonna go that high. They're not WRs.

Sorry in advance if this has been covered in previous pages.


scat back FBs having jumping listed in their ALG - how does that happen over a receiving TE
same with combo TE

so basically the FB can have jumping and a TE that does a little receiving and a little blocking can have it as well but a player whos primary goal is receiving as a TE- i will just say that i dont get it then


FB Scat Back
5'10" - 6'3", 230-250 Lbs
Major Agility Catching Speed Vision (+.5)
Minor Blocking Carrying Confidence Jumping (+.25)
Bonus SA's - Sticky Hands, Quick C


TE Combo
6'2" - 6'8", 250-280 Lbs
Major Agility Blocking Catching Strength Vision (+.4)
Minor Confidence Jumping Speed (+.33)
Bonus SA's - None
Penalty SA's - None
Edited by eaglesfan20 on Feb 22, 2010 17:47:16
 
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Originally posted by eaglesfan20
scat back FBs having jumping listed in their ALG - how does that happen over a receiving TE
same with combo TE so basically the FB can have jumping and a TE that does a little receiving and a little blocking can have it as well but a player whos primary goal is receiving as a TE- i will just say that i dont get it then

Basically you can only choose a certain number of majors and minors without throwing the ALG total out of whack, so you prioritize. Jumping was deemed to be not as important as most of the other options. Ideally it would be nice for them to have it, but then you have to take away something else.
 
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so why is jumping needed in a COMBO TE then but not a receiving TE
Edited by eaglesfan20 on Feb 22, 2010 20:03:20
 
tuba_samurai
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Maybe b/c he'll likely be more of a possession guy, and will have more jump ball type plays than a Receiving TE?
*shrug*
 
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so a receiving TE shouldnt have the ability to do the same? - he is supposed to be a receiver - so he should have the advantages of what comes with that(jumping) and the disadvantages as well(not a great blocker) - i thought thats one of the reasons for the archetype, 2 better differentiate player types and skill sets
Edited by eaglesfan20 on Feb 22, 2010 20:31:38
Edited by eaglesfan20 on Feb 22, 2010 20:30:59
 
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Originally posted by eaglesfan20
so a receiving TE shouldnt have the ability to do the same? - he is supposed to be a receiver - so he should have the advantages of what comes with that(jumping) and the disadvantages as well(not a great blocker) - i thought thats one of the reasons for the archetype, 2 better differentiate player types and skill sets


I was just sayin'.
I am sure they are still tweaking the details of the archetypes.
 
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ITT: Tuba Samurai fails a lot
 
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Originally posted by David Stern
ITT: Tuba Samurai fails a lot


In all threads, really. I was just kidding around, but that's obviously not going over well.
Edited by tuba_samurai on Feb 22, 2010 21:37:36
 
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Originally posted by eaglesfan20
so a receiving TE shouldnt have the ability to do the same? - he is supposed to be a receiver - so he should have the advantages of what comes with that(jumping) and the disadvantages as well(not a great blocker) - i thought thats one of the reasons for the archetype, 2 better differentiate player types and skill sets


The point is not to have the algs assist unrealistic builds, like TEs who can jump really high but can't block at all. If you want to have a TE who can jump, suck it up and put points into a non-gainer. Has to be a disadvantage involved with putting a WR at TE, either oop or lack of jumping algs, take your pick.
 
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im just trying to figure out why Scat FB's and Receiving TE's are treated any differently in building?
 
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