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Fine... idiot

This allows talent to remain with talent. If USA was already the best league, this ensures it remains that way. What point is there in having USA AA leagues having 13 great teams remain, then the shrubs of the minors join them to get destroyed? This actually keeps BALANCE in the leagues, by feeding in the best teams who are up for the challenge.


You could counter and say - what is keeping the best teams from choosing crummy leagues, and overflowing them with talent? I don't think this is an issue. Even conference champions will not be immediate favorites in Africa AA. The current AA leagues are a huge step up from the minors.


I simply see this as a way to ensure the best run organizations with the best level of talent end up in the leagues they deserve. It is also a way to, for the most part, avoid leagues you simply really don't want to be in

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this is such an obvious thing to do...

Originally posted by damanwithdamoves
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this is such an obvious thing to do...

How so? If you are going to talk about obvious things, then how about fixing the real problems of the site? This wouldn't fix anything, just be "nice" (if you can call it that) addition.

Other problems need to be fixed. How about we focus on the things that are currently in the game and stop taking any suggestion? Honestly, the incompetence of people, such as yourselves, that want to add more to an already troubled website is completely mindboggling.

Originally posted by Octowned
Fine... idiot

This allows talent to remain with talent. If USA was already the best league, this ensures it remains that way. What point is there in having USA AA leagues having 13 great teams remain, then the shrubs of the minors join them to get destroyed? This actually keeps BALANCE in the leagues, by feeding in the best teams who are up for the challenge.


You could counter and say - what is keeping the best teams from choosing crummy leagues, and overflowing them with talent? I don't think this is an issue. Even conference champions will not be immediate favorites in Africa AA. The current AA leagues are a huge step up from the minors.


I simply see this as a way to ensure the best run organizations with the best level of talent end up in the leagues they deserve. It is also a way to, for the most part, avoid leagues you simply really don't want to be in

It is a gigantic issue. As much there is motivation for people to join the best leagues to gain recognition, there would be a lot of motivation for people to join bad leagues. They may be a huge step up, but it doesn't stop super-slow built teams from dominating a vastly inferior league.

Originally posted by damanwithdamoves
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this is such an obvious thing to do...

+1, and there is still plenty of time to implement it. Who cares how ugly the interface is, how many teams even need to fill it in?

I'll tell you:

56 region leagues
118 minor leagues
43 casual leagues
24 pee wee leagues

There are 28 uncapped minors. Only playoff teams need to bother with this interface, so lets say 14 / 241 leagues, or about 7% of teams.



That's 7% of teams who are faced with the decision knowing they have a shot of moving to AA having made the playoffs in uncapped. Two ways to look at it

1) That's a lot of teams to be pissing off by giving one choice of region
2) That's not a lot of teams to piss off by giving them some ugly interface to choose it


We care. Don't worry about how it looks, just put it out there, a good portion of people need to use it once a season, and if we don't need it, we don't look at it. Just 8 pull-down boxes all lined up, Choice #1, Choice #2, etc. If we select the same region twice, skip the second time. If we don't select one somewhere, skip it. If we choose choice 1 and 3, skip 2. Like I said, the algorithm would go team by team, and take the HIGHEST ON THEIR LIST STILL AVAILABLE. Can't be too many bugs to work out in an algorithm like that =)

Originally posted by CTX
Originally posted by damanwithdamoves

+1

this is such an obvious thing to do...

How so? If you are going to talk about obvious things, then how about fixing the real problems of the site? This wouldn't fix anything, just be "nice" (if you can call it that) addition.

Other problems need to be fixed. How about we focus on the things that are currently in the game and stop taking any suggestion? Honestly, the incompetence of people, such as yourselves, that want to add more to an already troubled website is completely mindboggling.

With how many DAYS these EXACT SAME TEAMS were tossed around the last few seasons, with extra days of offseason, no idea what league we'd end up in, how to recruit, etc.... Heck, my team has been in three different leagues in the last three seasons, and hasn't "promoted" once!!!.... Anyway, with how much these exact teams have been jerked around, I think we deserve a say in what region we end up in.

Originally posted by CTX
Originally posted by Octowned

Fine... idiot

This allows talent to remain with talent. If USA was already the best league, this ensures it remains that way. What point is there in having USA AA leagues having 13 great teams remain, then the shrubs of the minors join them to get destroyed? This actually keeps BALANCE in the leagues, by feeding in the best teams who are up for the challenge.


You could counter and say - what is keeping the best teams from choosing crummy leagues, and overflowing them with talent? I don't think this is an issue. Even conference champions will not be immediate favorites in Africa AA. The current AA leagues are a huge step up from the minors.


I simply see this as a way to ensure the best run organizations with the best level of talent end up in the leagues they deserve. It is also a way to, for the most part, avoid leagues you simply really don't want to be in

It is a gigantic issue. As much there is motivation for people to join the best leagues to gain recognition, there would be a lot of motivation for people to join bad leagues. They may be a huge step up, but it doesn't stop super-slow built teams from dominating a vastly inferior league.

What is stopping them all from selecting "Africa" right now, knowing it is going to be the least selected choice, and probably getting it anyway? The problem isn't ending up in the crummy leagues, it is for the mid-carders or the teams unlucky enough not to get their first choice, and then losing all say in the matter whatsoever. It is for the popular leagues like USA and Canada ensuring they get the best teams to choose to go there, etc.


I'm just saying, if the top teams want to go to Africa right now, I have a feeling they'll end up there. If more people select Africa than there are slots available, I'll be shocked. We're talking about the premier leagues getting the premier teams who want to go there.

You do have a say in what league you are in.

You can pick pee-wee, casual, or regular. You can win and put yourself in a position to be promoted. There are already things you can do. If you aren't good enough, that is your own damn fault. Don't try and go begging for another way. You get what you get and you should be happy about it.

So here is the situation with a lot of current good teams.

We created ourselves in seasons 5-6 as new teams. Maybe it took us a few seasons to get good - this is natural for teams with chemistry. It is hard to move up without replacing your roster every season.

So in season 7-8, a large flux of BBB teams were just getting good enough to compete and form rivalries in their league.

Then in season 9, they got horizontally shuffled into capped leagues. So a ton of teams who were FINALLY ready to win their league after seasons of building team chemistry and combating other teams constantly recruiting over the top of them.... got put with a bunch of talent and weren't quite there again.

So just when they thought they were ready to make that step up again in season 10... well, they got shuffled again. Heck, even season 9 BBB winners who thought they'd go to A got shuffled right back up.. often with the exact team they beat in the championship to win that spot to go to A.

So these are the teams not good enough to get promoted? That got stripped of all rivalries, league identity, and motivation for success in their bottom tier leagues constantly ignored by new game developments? And now they have a crapshoot to end up back where they started, or with teams they want to be with, or in the region they have other ties with, all because they were jerked around season after season.

Yeah, no thanks! I've spent way too long developing a franchise here to have it all explode in my face yet again by a league I don't want to be in. I think countless others would feel the same. I'm up to the challenge - I've been up to it for 5 seasons now. I just feel like the season 5-6 dedicated expansion teams who chose to build from the bottom up together instead of recruiting at-cap talent season after season have gotten the short stick every since being made. Multiple shuffles, left out by fame and endorsements, harder to sell tickets, etc. Just not cool.

Dude, I can't do this...I'm not an actor, so I can't play dumb anymore...sorry :-(

I hope somebody else tries to say this is a bad idea so we can get some discussion and hopefully this gets adopted

Hahaha Thanks for giving me a platform to at least say a few things... with exaggeration lol.


It has been annoying though, my team is 5 seasons in the making and I feel like we're constantly being juggled around by Bort while the teams who started just a few seasons before us avoided all of it.

I think that happens to be luck of the draw. There are the lucky ones and the unlucky ones when there is a drastic change in the way how the game is structured.

Even the best new team now will take:

Season 1: farm/peewee/dleague/whatever
Season 2: lv 13
Season 3: lv 24
Season 4: lv 34
Season 5: uncapped
Season 6: AA
Season 7: AAA
Seaosn 8: Pro

You have to win your league for 3 straight seasons, then advance every time after that, and you still only get a few seasons in Pro with the new structure. More realistically, even the best run teams have little to no shot to go from zero to Pro and actually play there before their players retire.

Luck of the draw? You mean be a season 1-4 team. Few others will populate the pro leagues, unless they constantly overturn their roster (which happens quite a bit, sure).

It isn't luck anymore. The structure of this game isn't set-up for teams who have stuck together. A lot of these teams are dealing with going to AA. Throw us a bone for once, let us choose where to go.

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