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I like it+1

Why hasn't bort come back in here?

I don't like this idea much personally.
It's already covered route running tactics and run style. Players make different catches based on the routes they run not on an overall 'catch' preference.

Originally posted by Tyrone Shoelaces
I don't like this idea much personally.
It's already covered route running tactics and run style. Players make different catches based on the routes they run not on an overall 'catch' preference.

There's evasive/power and exact/improvise. I really don't see how either of those do what this suggestion says. If you read a couple of posts above, I simplified it so that the YAC option (whatever it gets called) calculates your path before you get the ball; the possession tactic is all about making sure you actually get the ball.

player's paths are recalculated all the time. From what bort has revealed about it, there are constantly vision checks against other player's speed/angle that will determine your path. There's no predetermination to it. Also, I was writing in reference to the OP where you were talking about flashy vs possession. Maybe update the OP if you're now suggesting something else as people will not scour the thread.

My point about catching was that wrs make different catches based on the routes they run. If they run a come back or an out they're looking to simply catch the ball and take the easy yards. On a post, go, or in route they may just be trying to come down with the ball or go the distance if they feel they have the other player beat. Forcing players to choose one method or another for every route in a whole game is simplistic for a concept that depends on so many different factors.

Interesting how there is only one person so far who has truly rejected the suggestion. I'll update the first post, I thought I had, though.

As far as answering your questions on the tactic, there are of course situations where a receiver is not going to break away, no matter what; just as there are situations where a receiver is not going to cacth the ball. All this tactic does is create plusses in the chances that they can happen. A receiver on the possession tactic is going to make some of the harder catches. A receiver on flashy is going to be able to break off some big runs in tough situations.

I know that you're concerned about being on the wrong tactic in the wrong situation, but I honestly don't see that being the downfall of this tactic.

Please do voice your concerns, though. I appreciate any and all feedback.

..and so WR's continue to dominate.

How about we stop them catching when covered by 3 first?

Passing to WR's with possession catch is basically an I Win button. Are you seriously suggesting the WR catch before the CB deflection? would there ever be any deflections with the way WR's are catching it lately?

-1 from me I'm afraid. I'm all for individual tactics, but these just don't work in my eyes

Originally posted by mikeedangerr
..and so WR's continue to dominate.

How about we stop them catching when covered by 3 first?

Passing to WR's with possession catch is basically an I Win button. Are you seriously suggesting the WR catch before the CB deflection? would there ever be any deflections with the way WR's are catching it lately?

-1 from me I'm afraid. I'm all for individual tactics, but these just don't work in my eyes

Drops would be ramped up. The possession setting would be pretty much equivalent to what we have now. The catch before deflection roll was only an idea of a way to make it work. I haven't heard anything from Bort since that suggestion, so I don't know.

Did this lead to the possession receiver and YAC attack VAs??

everyone would pick possession because their are already a crap load of dropped passes in this game. If this was implemented then any WR with a lot of speed and catching could just run down the field and get themselves into one on one coverage and be almost guaranteed the catch every time if they had possession set.

+1

Catch roll before CBs?

I think that is a terrible idea.

CBs would be idiotic to go for the PD or INT with the WR getting the roll first.

This idea could really be dangerous.

If the Possession receiver tactic was too powerful, it would make a team unstoppable. With all the VA's and so on added on it would be the Islam of that season. Forget YAC. That's not the dangerous part in my experience. Throw for 4 yds a down.

Made a post about catching style and realized it was already done so I'll throw in my idea on catching style.

Originally posted by
ell as we know passing has really taken a hit this year and I think a good idea would be adding a catching slider for all players that can receive. (WR's TE's FB's HB's)

Basically what this slider would do would alter how hard your player concentrates to make the catch. So if you set it to say 100% "Sure catch" that means your WR will make sure he catches the ball first before making any movements. That means once he makes the catch he is slower to start running again. If you say set it too "Eyes downfield" it will of course allow your receiver to make catches in stride without losing much to none (I guess depending on your agility) but of course they are more prone to dropping the catch as they are more concentrated on getting the YAC as the "Sure catch" is concentrated on making just the catch.
A sure catch would look something like this: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=867282&pbp_id=3861467
Where they stop to make sure they hold onto the ball
or this

But a eye's downfield would look something more like this: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=845440&pbp_id=4995336
He keeps on moving right away after the throw.


I think this would help compensate a little for the lack of any passing game in the lower levels as not only are QB's inaccurate like you wouldn't believe but then having a ball finally go to one of your receivers and have it dropped all the time is demoralizing.

If you guys have any other ideas to add on for this I'd appreciate it or any thoughts on this.

Great idea imo, should definitely be given consideration