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RodBrown42
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Originally posted by kingofgod
^Why go for 78 vision when 70 is all that is needed?


I like completing 80% of the passes ...

My question is why gofor 60 str when 35 is all that is needed? You dont throw it any further. Bullet passes with 35 str gets the ball to the open man in stride.

Throwing is important but seeing as all the EQ goes into it, it can reach 78 on its own time.

Eventualy the said QB should look like 48str/con 84vis & 106thr(with EQ)
 
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Originally posted by RodBrown42
Originally posted by kingofgod

^Why go for 78 vision when 70 is all that is needed?


I like completing 80% of the passes ...

My question is why gofor 60 str when 35 is all that is needed? You dont throw it any further. Bullet passes with 35 str gets the ball to the open man in stride.

Throwing is important but seeing as all the EQ goes into it, it can reach 78 on its own time.

Eventualy the said QB should look like 48str/con 84vis & 106thr(with EQ)


Level 26 and every one of the games has been a blow out.

The higher you put bullet the harder it is for your WR to catch and with high bullet you will get balls knocked down at the LOS.
 
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Originally posted by kingofgod
Originally posted by RodBrown42

Originally posted by kingofgod


^Why go for 78 vision when 70 is all that is needed?


I like completing 80% of the passes ...

My question is why gofor 60 str when 35 is all that is needed? You dont throw it any further. Bullet passes with 35 str gets the ball to the open man in stride.

Throwing is important but seeing as all the EQ goes into it, it can reach 78 on its own time.

Eventualy the said QB should look like 48str/con 84vis & 106thr(with EQ)


Level 26 and every one of the games has been a blow out.

The higher you put bullet the harder it is for your WR to catch and with high bullet you will get balls knocked down at the LOS.


Except when you have very high vision ...

Even in two competive scrimage games we lost to teams in higger cap leagues he went 79.8%

Trust me when I say QB VISION is king
 
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Originally posted by RodBrown42
Originally posted by kingofgod

Originally posted by RodBrown42


Originally posted by kingofgod



^Why go for 78 vision when 70 is all that is needed?


I like completing 80% of the passes ...

My question is why gofor 60 str when 35 is all that is needed? You dont throw it any further. Bullet passes with 35 str gets the ball to the open man in stride.

Throwing is important but seeing as all the EQ goes into it, it can reach 78 on its own time.

Eventualy the said QB should look like 48str/con 84vis & 106thr(with EQ)


Level 26 and every one of the games has been a blow out.

The higher you put bullet the harder it is for your WR to catch and with high bullet you will get balls knocked down at the LOS.


Except when you have very high vision ...

Even in two competive scrimage games we lost to teams in higger cap leagues he went 79.8%

Trust me when I say QB VISION is king


Read the question mark next to the bullet slider and come back here.
 
Ilok
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when you get out of the cloud leagues and get into real competition, you'll understand the importance of strength over vision.
 
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yea thx 4 these informations !!
 
qubanti
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Originally posted by Ilok
yeah a lot of this stuff isn't relevent because things have changed greatly since season 5


Will you be updating the guide?
 
Ilok
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prolly not. I don't really like how the game is being ran, haveing a completely new sim every season, sometimes a huge sim change midseason, and the fact that Bort keeps valuable information, like the formulas used to perform actions and exactly what each attribute does, hidden like they are cornerstone of christianity.

I'm sorry but blindly following an idiot that on whim changes stuff and making people who actually try and help the normal users job that much harder is getting kind of old.
 
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Originally posted by qubanti
Originally posted by Ilok

yeah a lot of this stuff isn't relevent because things have changed greatly since season 5


Will you be updating the guide?


I dont think it really needs updating. All the concepts stayed the same. You just have to adjust your plan to be slow built
 
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Originally posted by Ilok
when you get out of the cloud leagues and get into real competition, you'll understand the importance of strength over vision.


Ive coached at every level in the playoffs. Ive seen what works season after season sim after sim.

Strength is not important at all. All it does increase the pass speed. In the sim what does it matter on how fast the pass gets there when the combination of Vision, Throwing and WR skill get the player wide open or gives a bonus to catching covered? Granted sub 35 strength is slow/lofty and will not make it in time, but there is not a big difference between 40-68 to me. Ive seen QB's with 78+ make a transition to higer compition and fall flat.

Vision does the most for completeing passes in three ways, Finding then most open player, creating an open player via fake and bonus to completion while WR is covered.
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Strength increasing pass speed.

Throwing helps more for distance and acuracey and gives a bonus, however it does not seem to me uber throwing skill is as effective with out high vision in any case ive seen.

Here is the question, how is pass speed going to effect the WR catching the ball while he is covered? If any very little i would think. This makes it sure to me strength in this case is over rated.
 
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Originally posted by RodBrown42
Originally posted by Ilok

when you get out of the cloud leagues and get into real competition, you'll understand the importance of strength over vision.


Ive coached at every level in the playoffs. Ive seen what works season after season sim after sim.

Strength is not important at all. All it does increase the pass speed. In the sim what does it matter on how fast the pass gets there when the combination of Vision, Throwing and WR skill get the player wide open or gives a bonus to catching covered? Granted sub 35 strength is slow/lofty and will not make it in time, but there is not a big difference between 40-68 to me. Ive seen QB's with 78+ make a transition to higer compition and fall flat.

Vision does the most for completeing passes in three ways, Finding then most open player, creating an open player via fake and bonus to completion while WR is covered.
vs
Strength increasing pass speed.

Throwing helps more for distance and acuracey and gives a bonus, however it does not seem to me uber throwing skill is as effective with out high vision in any case ive seen.

Here is the question, how is pass speed going to effect the WR catching the ball while he is covered? If any very little i would think. This makes it sure to me strength in this case is over rated.



Why does everyone think that building their Qb to be Chad Pennington is good? Almost all star QBs have a good to great arm because pass speed does help. Especially with ball hawk in the picture making defenders even faster once the ball is thrown.
 
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With 60 STR you don't be a Chad Pennington. Do you think more will turn you to Brees if you don't have enough vision or confidence to throw?
 
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Originally posted by Kenshinzen
With 60 STR you don't be a Chad Pennington. Do you think more will turn you to Brees if you don't have enough vision or confidence to throw?


Confidence is very important. And vision is also important to an extent, That extent is 70 imo. After that the returns are greater for investing into strength
 
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I have a lvl 15 QB and this is my plan. Im making him a pocket passer. I have his running style set on power because i dont want him cutting and juking when he runs i just want him to get down field IF no one is open. Is this style of QB possible to make? When he gets to level 40-50ish would i pump speed and not agility to achieve this?
Edited by mhayes on Jul 20, 2009 13:34:37
 
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what about a scrambler?
 
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