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Originally posted by bullsbills
I recently took over OC. New to the AI. I had a player tell me that his WR is not receiving any dedicated plays.
In the AI I see where you can tell the AI to look to first.But nothing for an individual WR. I have five quality WR to get the ball to.
This WR is 3rd WR. Is this possible to dedicate a play to a WR who is not number 1? Can you change who is number one WR for
individual plays?

Is there a updated manual for OC? the one I was reading is 8 months old.Thanks

There isn't any real way to devote plays to a specific WR. All you can do is take advantage of the opposing teams defense that leaves that WR spot open and hopefully the QB will throw it to him. The WR1, 2, etc. spots can put the WR on the plays you want for him.

question:

my O isnt following my AI. i set it to 100% 5 WR sets and it hardly runs them, maybe 30%. i've had 2 people check my AI and they could find anything wrong. anyone know what to do?

Originally posted by grandpa
question:

my O isnt following my AI. i set it to 100% 5 WR sets and it hardly runs them, maybe 30%. i've had 2 people check my AI and they could find anything wrong. anyone know what to do?

This could be alot of things and you would have to give specifics as to how your AI is set up. Have you tried eliminating everything except the 5WR sets and special team inputs? Another problem could be that your 5WR input has in on a specific down or yardage and forces the CPU to change it.

Originally posted by Lost My Halo
Originally posted by bullsbills

I recently took over OC. New to the AI. I had a player tell me that his WR is not receiving any dedicated plays.
In the AI I see where you can tell the AI to look to first.But nothing for an individual WR. I have five quality WR to get the ball to.
This WR is 3rd WR. Is this possible to dedicate a play to a WR who is not number 1? Can you change who is number one WR for
individual plays?

Is there a updated manual for OC? the one I was reading is 8 months old.Thanks

There isn't any real way to devote plays to a specific WR. All you can do is take advantage of the opposing teams defense that leaves that WR spot open and hopefully the QB will throw it to him. The WR1, 2, etc. spots can put the WR on the plays you want for him.

There is one more thing you can do, though it won't be 100% effective and may very well be detrimental to your overall production.

Have your QB set that WR as his favored target, in QB settings. I don't recommend it, and don't use it, but the option is there.

Originally posted by Lost My Halo
Originally posted by bullsbills

I recently took over OC. New to the AI. I had a player tell me that his WR is not receiving any dedicated plays.
In the AI I see where you can tell the AI to look to first.But nothing for an individual WR. I have five quality WR to get the ball to.
This WR is 3rd WR. Is this possible to dedicate a play to a WR who is not number 1? Can you change who is number one WR for
individual plays?

Is there a updated manual for OC? the one I was reading is 8 months old.Thanks

There isn't any real way to devote plays to a specific WR. All you can do is take advantage of the opposing teams defense that leaves that WR spot open and hopefully the QB will throw it to him. The WR1, 2, etc. spots can put the WR on the plays you want for him.

Taking this idea a bit further, I'm not sure how well this works but it's an idea I'm testing out...

Trying to get the ball to your #3 WR, put him in the WR3 spot and maybe only have him or one other WR there, so when your run 3-wide sets he'll be in that spot.

Then look at your playbook and find a play where the slot WR is the primary target, e.g. WR Medium, Curls Left (Single Back), or Long WR, Deep Corner (Shotgun) if he has some speed.

Remove any other plays from that set that run from the same formation (e.g. so there are no other Single Back plays in WR Med).

Then in the OAI, set an output for that play, Formation, Play Distance & Primary Receiver, and it should run a play with that guy as the primary target.

Originally posted by tetura
Originally posted by Lost My Halo

Originally posted by bullsbills


I recently took over OC. New to the AI. I had a player tell me that his WR is not receiving any dedicated plays.
In the AI I see where you can tell the AI to look to first.But nothing for an individual WR. I have five quality WR to get the ball to.
This WR is 3rd WR. Is this possible to dedicate a play to a WR who is not number 1? Can you change who is number one WR for
individual plays?

Is there a updated manual for OC? the one I was reading is 8 months old.Thanks

There isn't any real way to devote plays to a specific WR. All you can do is take advantage of the opposing teams defense that leaves that WR spot open and hopefully the QB will throw it to him. The WR1, 2, etc. spots can put the WR on the plays you want for him.

Taking this idea a bit further, I'm not sure how well this works but it's an idea I'm testing out...

Trying to get the ball to your #3 WR, put him in the WR3 spot and maybe only have him or one other WR there, so when your run 3-wide sets he'll be in that spot.

Then look at your playbook and find a play where the slot WR is the primary target, e.g. WR Medium, Curls Left (Single Back), or Long WR, Deep Corner (Shotgun) if he has some speed.

Remove any other plays from that set that run from the same formation (e.g. so there are no other Single Back plays in WR Med).

Then in the OAI, set an output for that play, Formation, Play Distance & Primary Receiver, and it should run a play with that guy as the primary target.

That's good advice; I would just tell the agent to build a better receiver so that he can create separation from the CB and the QB will start throwing the ball his direction.

Originally posted by Welsh76
Originally posted by tetura

Originally posted by Lost My Halo


Originally posted by bullsbills
I recently took over OC. New to the AI. I had a player tell me that his WR is not receiving any dedicated plays.
In the AI I see where you can tell the AI to look to first.But nothing for an individual WR. I have five quality WR to get the ball to.
This WR is 3rd WR. Is this possible to dedicate a play to a WR who is not number 1? Can you change who is number one WR for
individual plays?

Is there a updated manual for OC? the one I was reading is 8 months old.Thanks

There isn't any real way to devote plays to a specific WR. All you can do is take advantage of the opposing teams defense that leaves that WR spot open and hopefully the QB will throw it to him. The WR1, 2, etc. spots can put the WR on the plays you want for him.

Taking this idea a bit further, I'm not sure how well this works but it's an idea I'm testing out...

Trying to get the ball to your #3 WR, put him in the WR3 spot and maybe only have him or one other WR there, so when your run 3-wide sets he'll be in that spot.

Then look at your playbook and find a play where the slot WR is the primary target, e.g. WR Medium, Curls Left (Single Back), or Long WR, Deep Corner (Shotgun) if he has some speed.

Remove any other plays from that set that run from the same formation (e.g. so there are no other Single Back plays in WR Med).

Then in the OAI, set an output for that play, Formation, Play Distance & Primary Receiver, and it should run a play with that guy as the primary target.

That's good advice; I would just tell the agent to build a better receiver so that he can create separation from the CB and the QB will start throwing the ball his direction.

lol, yeah that may be true.

But there may be situations where for example your WR3 is your possession guy with high catching, sticky hands and clutch/mr. reliable, so you really want to try to get it to him on 3rd down. Using formation-specific plays may be the way to target WRs like this at least somewhat, since we don't have the custom slots for them.

But in general, you're right. You don't really want to cater to individual players expecting to get dedicated plays, unless they are playing a specific role in your game plan like that. Otherwise, put them all in rotation and let the QB throw it to whoever is most open and has the best chance of catching it, and if they guy isn't getting any targets then it may be his build and you don't want to be trying to force the ball to him just to satisfy the agent...

Forgive me if I ask a question that's already been answered; I just couldn't pull myself to reading 8 pages of posts...

So my first question regarding the Custom Offensive Slots; it says for use with advanced offensive AI and per-formation settings only; What exactly does that mean. For instance, if I put 1 running back at RB1 and another running back at RB2 will it only use the running back in RB1 if I set it to RB1 under one of the formations. Or will that RB1 be used predominately during game play because it is the custom slot 1?

Also... if I wanted to try and use a much faster RB or say WR at the QB position and try to run an outside run with my fast RB or WR in the QB slot... how effective will that be? Will I lose a lot of that players skill putting him at the QB spot or will his speed and ball carry ability still be high?

Hopefully that makes sense to any who read this and can shine some light on this for me.

Xtreme: If you put an HB at HB1 and call a play with HB1 set, that HB you set at HB1 will always come on the field.

And You probably don't want to use a WR/HB at QB spot to run. The out of position penalty is so large, that he will be a lot slower... have more fumbles, etc.

Awesome, thank you

Originally posted by weather
Xtreme: If you put an HB at HB1 and call a play with HB1 set, that HB you set at HB1 will always come on the field.

And You probably don't want to use a WR/HB at QB spot to run. The out of position penalty is so large, that he will be a lot slower... have more fumbles, etc.

I thought it was only a xp penalaty hmm thats why my RB is so slow when using the wildcat

Originally posted by Jacob McCandles
Any one know how to get the AI to run outside running and deep pass plays from the normal I.

choose long pass, and then I formation ??

Originally posted by tetura
Originally posted by Welsh76

Originally posted by tetura


Originally posted by Lost My Halo



Originally posted by bullsbills

I recently took over OC. New to the AI. I had a player tell me that his WR is not receiving any dedicated plays.
In the AI I see where you can tell the AI to look to first.But nothing for an individual WR. I have five quality WR to get the ball to.
This WR is 3rd WR. Is this possible to dedicate a play to a WR who is not number 1? Can you change who is number one WR for
individual plays?

Is there a updated manual for OC? the one I was reading is 8 months old.Thanks

There isn't any real way to devote plays to a specific WR. All you can do is take advantage of the opposing teams defense that leaves that WR spot open and hopefully the QB will throw it to him. The WR1, 2, etc. spots can put the WR on the plays you want for him.

Taking this idea a bit further, I'm not sure how well this works but it's an idea I'm testing out...

Trying to get the ball to your #3 WR, put him in the WR3 spot and maybe only have him or one other WR there, so when your run 3-wide sets he'll be in that spot.

Then look at your playbook and find a play where the slot WR is the primary target, e.g. WR Medium, Curls Left (Single Back), or Long WR, Deep Corner (Shotgun) if he has some speed.

Remove any other plays from that set that run from the same formation (e.g. so there are no other Single Back plays in WR Med).

Then in the OAI, set an output for that play, Formation, Play Distance & Primary Receiver, and it should run a play with that guy as the primary target.

That's good advice; I would just tell the agent to build a better receiver so that he can create separation from the CB and the QB will start throwing the ball his direction.

lol, yeah that may be true.

But there may be situations where for example your WR3 is your possession guy with high catching, sticky hands and clutch/mr. reliable, so you really want to try to get it to him on 3rd down. Using formation-specific plays may be the way to target WRs like this at least somewhat, since we don't have the custom slots for them.

But in general, you're right. You don't really want to cater to individual players expecting to get dedicated plays, unless they are playing a specific role in your game plan like that. Otherwise, put them all in rotation and let the QB throw it to whoever is most open and has the best chance of catching it, and if they guy isn't getting any targets then it may be his build and you don't want to be trying to force the ball to him just to satisfy the agent...

Have your QB favour that WR ??

Anyone know of an Offensive Coordinator private forum????

Quick question -

In the HB/FB assignment drop-down of the output, what's the difference between selecting "Use Basic Settings" vs. "Play Default".

If this has been covered, please link it up! Thanks.