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splitter24
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Originally posted by Little M
It is possible for the DC to somewhat protect a CB with low tackling, but if that happens it limits the number of plays that your player will get. The stat that you didn't post that would scare me a bit, as a DC, is he has been pancaked 42 times in 14 games.


I wonder how much impact getting pancaked 3 times a game really has, though (especially if you're getting double-digit picks and sporting a 52:1 tackle to miss ratio). There are 9 CB's on the WL most-pancaked "leader" board. Including two each on Miami and Odessa and one on Razorback, all playoff teams.
 
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Originally posted by splitter24
I wonder how much impact getting pancaked 3 times a game really has, though (especially if you're getting double-digit picks and sporting a 52:1 tackle to miss ratio). There are 9 CB's on the WL most-pancaked "leader" board. Including two each on Miami and Odessa and one on Razorback, all playoff teams.


I asked this very same question in a thread about DvG VA concerning what one missed tackle could mean. You might check out the replies there. (butt still hurting)
 
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Originally posted by splitter24
I wonder how much impact getting pancaked 3 times a game really has, though (especially if you're getting double-digit picks and sporting a 52:1 tackle to miss ratio). There are 9 CB's on the WL most-pancaked "leader" board. Including two each on Miami and Odessa and one on Razorback, all playoff teams.


It is getting pancaked and not being able to contribute to making a tackle

The CB I posted is top 10 in picks with like 11 times getting caked
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
It is getting pancaked and not being able to contribute to making a tackle



And sometimes it's getting pancaked away from the play or without having any real chance to make the tackle whether you get pancaked or not.

The point I guess I'm trying to make is if you start making sacrifices to keep your dot from having what people believe to be a perceived weakness, then it potentially takes away from his ability to be really good at what you intended him to do in the first place. My dot makes a lot of picks, rarely ever misses a tackle, but gets pancaked the 7th most among CB's in WL (a good portion of whom are on playoff teams). Seems like a reasonable trade off.
 
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Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
I asked this very same question in a thread about DvG VA concerning what one missed tackle could mean. You might check out the replies there. (butt still hurting)


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http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5265842
 
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Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
I asked this very same question in a thread about DvG VA concerning what one missed tackle could mean. You might check out the replies there. (butt still hurting)


Well, to be fair. missing a tackle to me seems more damaging than being pancaked. Especially if you're an intCB.
 
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Originally posted by splitter24
Well, to be fair. missing a tackle to me seems more damaging than being pancaked. Especially if you're an intCB.


You can not miss tackles and not get pancaked and still get picks
 
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Originally posted by splitter24
I guess my WL CB is unusual, then. Second with 10 picks, 52 tackles, 1 miss (and only 3 misses last season). And he's not really built along the lines of what's being suggested here.


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Originally posted by Dave Mr Majors
http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5265842


Aw geeze Dave... I love you too.
 
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Originally posted by splitter24
Well, to be fair. missing a tackle to me seems more damaging than being pancaked. Especially if you're an intCB.


Um... when your dot is flat on it's back (caked)... it ain't makin ANY tackles. At all. Not even in the play even. I see them as p'much one and the same thing except that, if you at least ATTEMPT to make a tackle, you stand a chance of slowing down the dot. As a caked dot, you ain't even a speedbump.
 
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Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Um... when your dot is flat on it's back (caked)... it ain't makin ANY tackles. At all. Not even in the play even. I see them as p'much one and the same thing except that, if you at least ATTEMPT to make a tackle, you stand a chance of slowing down the dot. As a caked dot, you ain't even a speedbump.


I think you're talking about the d-line there.
 
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Originally posted by Sonic
I think you're talking about the d-line there.


No, CB's or LB's get the same love (or lack thereof). Since this is a CB thread, if your CB gets caked while the HB blows by without so much as a sniff of his socks by the prone CB then that's the same as a missed tackle IMO. yes, I know there's not a lot of CB's out there that can handle some of the blocking WR's on every single play... which is why some DC's ask you to push the strength and tackling more. Does that take away from a PURE INT build? Sure. As long as that's cool with the DC and the dot builder that knows his dot will ONLY play on 3rd and 4th down and long.
 
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I could always be wrong, but the higher you get vision, superior vision, , first step, change direction, agility, speed, the better chance your guy will have to react to passes and get around receivers to make easy picks.
 
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Originally posted by buckets99
I could always be wrong, but the higher you get vision, superior vision, , first step, change direction, agility, speed, the better chance your guy will have to react to passes and get around receivers to make easy picks.


I would think all of that contributes.
 
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