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Just a baby, and I don't know about QBs too much. What am I doing wrong. Training strength, agility, throwing and vision.

Gadol Frier (Lv. 19 QB)
Ht/Wt: 6'3", 221lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $0
Daily Salary: $900
Skill Points: 0
Training Points: 6
Bonus Tokens: 13
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 0/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 30.9
Speed: 10.6
Agility: 26.5
Jumping: 8
Stamina: 15.1
Vision: 57.06
Confidence: 22.06

Football Skills
Blocking: 7.4
Catching: 8
Tackling: 8
Throwing: 103.06 (+18)
Carrying: 14.5
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Pocket Passer Abilities
Pocket Presence: 1
Tight Spiral: 1
Pump Fake: 1
Turn the Shoulder: 1
Field General: 1

Scrambler Abilities
On The Run: 0
Dump Pass: 0
Quick Cut: 0
Stiff Arm: 0
Demoralize: 0

Additional Abilities
Quick Read:

Originally posted by Doc Caudill
Do you answer any ?s pertaining to casual play?

I will try this again. I figure ask 1st in case you don't.

Originally posted by Doc Caudill
I will try this again. I figure ask 1st in case you don't.

When you find someone that does, let me know. But honestly, I don't think anyone knows about that. I can't find them.

Originally posted by alostsoul341
Just a baby, and I don't know about QBs too much. What am I doing wrong. Training strength, agility, throwing and vision.


Since you'll probably be with me on our way up to the Pros, here's my build (if you PM me each season, I'll send you a glimpse of what I'm doing):

Candy (Lv. 19 QB) http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4646237
Ht/Wt: 6'6", 260lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $0
Daily Salary: $437
Skill Points: 6
Training Points: 2
Bonus Tokens: 48
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 0/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 62.06
Speed: 6
Agility: 12.5
Jumping: 10
Stamina: 22.5
Vision: 51.06
Confidence: 17.5

Football Skills
Blocking: 10
Catching: 8
Tackling: 8
Throwing: 99.06 (+18)
Carrying: 14.5
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Pocket Passer Abilities
Pocket Presence: 1
Tight Spiral: 1
Pump Fake: 1
Turn the Shoulder: 1
Field General: 1

Scrambler Abilities
On The Run: 0
Dump Pass: 0
Quick Cut: 0
Stiff Arm: 0
Demoralize: 0

Additional Abilities
Quick Read: 0

Both of you guys (jpjn94 & alostsoul341)... here's some PRE advice. Don't forget you selected Quick Read as your extra SA when you start doing your AEQ. Make sure ONE of your pieces has that as part of the bargain so that you won't need to put extra SP's into it to raise it up. This trick works for any dot you build.

Would fake chance work for a QB? Would it help with the pump fake SA?

Originally posted by Montoya829
Would fake chance work for a QB? Would it help with the pump fake SA?

If he's a scrambler yes but it does nothing to pump fake

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Both of you guys (jpjn94 & alostsoul341)... here's some PRE advice. Don't forget you selected Quick Read as your extra SA when you start doing your AEQ. Make sure ONE of your pieces has that as part of the bargain so that you won't need to put extra SP's into it to raise it up. This trick works for any dot you build.

I am going to say that this is terrible advice. Like Wise posted earlier, and others have agreed...you gotta triple stack % pass quality. Pass Distance is the next in line.

Originally posted by jpjn94
Since you'll probably be with me on our way up to the Pros, here's my build (if you PM me each season, I'll send you a glimpse of what I'm doing):



This is great! Thanks

Originally posted by Dave Mr Majors
I am going to say that this is terrible advice. Like Wise posted earlier, and others have agreed...you gotta triple stack % pass quality. Pass Distance is the next in line.

I was wondering about that too.

Originally posted by Doc Caudill
Do you answer any ?s pertaining to casual play?

Nope, sorry. Casual sucks though and should have been removed/never created in the game. If bort wasn't awful at his own game and they made some preset AI's that weren't dogshit, there would be zero need for casual in the first place.

Originally posted by Montoya829
Would fake chance work for a QB? Would it help with the pump fake SA?

Originally posted by Team Nucleus
If he's a scrambler yes but it does nothing to pump fake

I know you're trying to be helpful TN, but you're incorrect my friend!

Fake% absolutely does work with pump fake per Bort and the gods of GLB.

I had a pump fake and double fake% QB which didn't seem like it fired more, but that's anecdotal crap evidence.

Popular belief is don't put fake% on QB's as it's not worth it. I think it could be useful in the right situation/build, but again my test build I didn't really notice an effect.

Unrelated, but fake% of course does not effect the look-off SA, which most agree is crap that doesn't fire enough.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Both of you guys (jpjn94 & alostsoul341)... here's some PRE advice. Don't forget you selected Quick Read as your extra SA when you start doing your AEQ. Make sure ONE of your pieces has that as part of the bargain so that you won't need to put extra SP's into it to raise it up. This trick works for any dot you build.

Fwiw I DO NOT advocate ever building AE for the special extra SA's that came late in the game for which you cannot roll AEQ for. On a QB with 3AE you really need 3x pq% and 1% pass distance if you hope to get a WL free agency contract. 4AE you have some flexibility. But it would be better to roll AEQ in tight spiral/pocketpresence/pumpfake, than build expensive quick read stuff, since that is the highest/most expensive 75 BT tear. Paying 75 BT's for a +5% peice you really need is worth it, I do not like paying for the most expensive SA's though for 2 reasons.

1. On positions where you aren't filling out your trees (QB standard is 10-10-10-0-0 top tree so it makes less of a difference) you are filling out SA's you don't want just to pump an SA to 10.

2. Other great SA's from trees are 18 or 38 BT's to build into equipment, while those EXTRA-ONLY SA's bort added later are always 75 BTs

Like lets say you are a break tackle HB that wants 10 spin and 10 hurdle. If you get AEQ in Hurdle that'll cost 75 BT's and you'll spend 1+1+2+2 = 6 SP's to get hurdle to 10. You will also spend 1+2+4+9+40 SP (56sp total) to get the top tree to 1-2-3-5-10 (spin). That's 56+6 = 62 SP between the two

If instead you have the spin AEQ you are only pumping 1+1+1+2+10 SPs the top tree to 1+1+1+2+4 (spin), which will be 4+6AE=10 total SP. And hurdle will cost 30 SP's to get to 10. Also you're spending 38 BT's to build the spin part (rather than 75 for hurdle). That's 40 SP's total


That means we are comparing 75 BT's and 62 SP's with hurdle AEQ, vs 38 BT's and 40 SP's with the spin AEQ. If we value BT's as 12=1 SP, we are talking about a 25 SP (5 level) difference between the correct and incorrect choice here.

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There are situations where splitting CEQ between two extra-only SA's can be helpful/worth it. Though in general I'd caution people don't build/stack enough +% AEQ on their dots in general, so they should be erring closer to that side. As an example, the number of olinemen who don't 15%+15%+12% triple stack hold block% 53 seasons into GLB is retarded.

Also just noting, some OC's (like myself) prefer 0 quick read to 10 quick read. 0 or 10 is the decision, but imo it just jacks up progressions and takes away OC control. Though there are less great OC's now so maybe that's not a bad thing, but imo that's the type of SA it's good to wait on til endbuild and consult your coordinator if you have a lifelong home.

Retire?

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