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rams78110
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Originally posted by taurran
This was a serious question.


That's why it's sad.
 
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Originally posted by rams78110
That's why it's sad.


Feel free to explain yourself, dumbass.

Either he is wrong or the multiple media outlets were wrong. Who was giving out the bad info?
 
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Lol the paranoid people who don't understand physics are still all-in on the namecalling like somehow that'll make their lolpoints more feasible
 
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Originally posted by taurran
So what was the media up to that day? Just being retards?


Originally posted by taurran
This was a serious question.


Originally posted by taurran
Feel free to explain yourself, dumbass.

Either he is wrong or the multiple media outlets were wrong. Who was giving out the bad info?




Well, I don't mind explaining it to you then, since we are being serious and all. While, I was young and stupid back then, very much like you are now. I remember it quite vividly.

If you could put yourself there in your mind under those circumstances,

1. America had not ever experienced something of that magnitude before that time.

2. So you can imagine, there was quite a bit of panic, disorganization, from the victims and emergency personnel, and a lot of misinformation from the local media.

3. National Media hadn't arrived until that evening, and by then we had a pretty good perimeter around the site.

4. By then, no media could get within 300 hundred yards of the site. But before? Local media was running all over, talking to anyone and everyone and reporting their so called findings over the air almost immediately in a play-by-play fashion.

5. On that first day, there wasn't any search dogs, or trained professional searchers with equipment. There were only local firefighters and police along with state wide volunteers.

6. As the local searchers are digging for survivors, they find these inert, harmless bombs. It immediately sent a panic through the emergency workers and then the crowds and the press, who all took off running for their lives. The search was canceled until the bomb squad verified the findings.

7. It isn't hard to understand or believe when you realize that a bunch of floors that held the ATF, and other Federal LE offices, collapsed on top of each other. And while searching for victims, they came rolling out from somewhere.

8. And just to let you know, The local news media reported there were bombs and then they corrected and reported they were inert training devices.

Edited by Sooner_Nation on Feb 8, 2014 14:23:34
Edited by Sooner_Nation on Feb 8, 2014 04:12:24
Edited by Sooner_Nation on Feb 8, 2014 00:53:05
Edited by Sooner_Nation on Feb 8, 2014 00:51:55
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LDw7ppLK7w
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nqhzsoLyao#t=1
 
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Originally posted by Gnosis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LDw7ppLK7w


Originally posted by Gnosis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nqhzsoLyao#t=1


Do you think the local media could ever be caught up in the intense drama and create misinformation? Do you think the local media then could transfer this hyperbole to the Nat'l media who wasn't even there yet? But they are still trying to provide news and 'get the story' you know, for ratings sake?

They do it all the time, without vetting out the reports that are coming in first. When we just got the F5 Tornado, they first reported, 'hundred's of people dead'. Then they reported, 'about a hundred' Then they reported, many different counts over the proceeding days to finally end up at 9 dead.

Only 9 dead in an F5 after hitting a major populated city? Couldn't be? That's not going to get ratings? Let's report more.

Edited by Sooner_Nation on Feb 8, 2014 14:38:29
 
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the media is always terrible after big things like that happen. there's so much misinformation, it's best not to watch/read it at all until everything settles down.
 
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Originally posted by mat5592
the media is always terrible after big things like that happen. there's so much misinformation, it's best not to watch/read it at all until everything settles down.


But there's no way to get my deluded conspiracyporn when everything is calm
 
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Originally posted by Sooner_Nation
Do you think the local media could ever be caught up in the intense drama and create misinformation? Do you think the local media then could transfer this hyperbole to the Nat'l media who wasn't even there yet? But they are still trying to provide news and 'get the story' you know, for ratings sake?

They do it all the time, without vetting out the reports that are coming in first. When we just got the F5 Tornado, they first reported, 'hundred's of people dead'. Then they reported, 'about a hundred' Then they reported, many different counts over the proceeding days to finally end up at 9 dead.

Only 9 dead in an F5 after hitting a major populated city? Couldn't be? That's not going to get ratings? Let's report more.



CT'ers like to hold on to media clips from when things first happened that are obviously full of incorrect information. I don't know why they can't take the word of people that were actually there and saw the investigation as it went down. Some people feel that there always needs to be more to the story.
 
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Originally posted by baumusc
CT'ers like to hold on to media clips from when things first happened that are obviously full of incorrect information. I don't know why they can't take the word of people that were actually there and saw the investigation as it went down. Some people feel that there always needs to be more to the story.


Do you think that there is an opposite personality to the 'CTer' who just blindly trusts everything?
Can one extreme be necessary to combat the other? If the world were full of people who never questioned the telling of events, would we know that our government caused through its lies the deaths of millions of Vietnamese and tens of thousands of Americans?
 
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Originally posted by Djinnt
Do you think that there is an opposite personality to the 'CTer' who just blindly trusts everything?
Can one extreme be necessary to combat the other? If the world were full of people who never questioned the telling of events, would we know that our government caused through its lies the deaths of millions of Vietnamese and tens of thousands of Americans?


Sure. Question things to a point but don't make shit up.
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Originally posted by rams78110
But there's no way to get my deluded conspiracyporn when everything is calm


Lol'd.

 
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Originally posted by Sooner_Nation


Well, I don't mind explaining it to you then, since we are being serious and all. While, I was young and stupid back then, very much like you are now. I remember it quite vividly.

If you could put yourself there in your mind under those circumstances,

1. America had not ever experienced something of that magnitude before that time.

2. So you can imagine, there was quite a bit of panic, disorganization, from the victims and emergency personnel, and a lot of misinformation from the local media.

3. National Media hadn't arrived until that evening, and by then we had a pretty good perimeter around the site.

4. By then, no media could get within 300 hundred yards of the site. But before? Local media was running all over, talking to anyone and everyone and reporting their so called findings over the air almost immediately in a play-by-play fashion.

5. On that first day, there wasn't any search dogs, or trained professional searchers with equipment. There were only local firefighters and police along with state wide volunteers.

6. As the local searchers are digging for survivors, they find these inert, harmless bombs. It immediately sent a panic through the emergency workers and then the crowds and the press, who all took off running for their lives. The search was canceled until the bomb squad verified the findings.

7. It isn't hard to understand or believe when you realize that a bunch of floors that held the ATF, and other Federal LE offices, collapsed on top of each other. And while searching for victims, they came rolling out from somewhere.

8. And just to let you know, The local news media reported there were bombs and then they corrected and reported they were inert training devices.



So I'm young and stupid for asking legit questions? That's quite telling of how LE perceives the public and media.
 
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Originally posted by baumusc
CT'ers like to hold on to media clips from when things first happened that are obviously full of incorrect information. I don't know why they can't take the word of people that were actually there and saw the investigation as it went down. Some people feel that there always needs to be more to the story.


Not true, exactly. A little journalistic integrity is something that should never be assumed. Apparently, we as a public have come not to expect that.
 
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