Warrior General Games

Originally posted by tpaterniti
yello I think you are misunderstanding the concept of a simulation.The simulation simulates what actually occurs on the field. That means it is designed to accurately simulate tackles, throws, catches, etc. It does not simulate WHAT you put onto the field. The only way you could do that is if every player were pre-made and the game were only tactics. That would not be much of a game.

And indeed the simulator you chose is not a game at all, it is a flight simulator. GLB would be like if each user could create their own plane model and cockpit design then run them through the flight simulator. Some people would be good at it and their planes would fly great. Others would be horrible at it and their planes would crash. But if that happened, no one at the flight school would think that something was wrong with their flight simulator because in it horribly built planes won't fly.

The simulation part of the game is supposed to accurately simulate the mechanics of the game, not the end result and not the product you put on the field. The more I read the more it seems you are either just upset because you are not better at the game or you want the game to do the player building for you. Probably someone will come up with a game like that. Quickhit was like that in a way. But GLB was never designed to be tactics only and if it were 90% of it's users would quit because making players and trying to make them good is what most people here enjoy the most.


There is some merit to what you say but the nature of the players on the field is too large a component of a football simulation to say that its okay for an NFL simulation to allow Girl Scout level players on the field.

If people want to field the 1977 Bucanneers, well that was their mistake. But they would still not be as bad as half the teams in GLB today.

Thats not a good simulation, sorry.

To follow your analogy it would be like having a flight sim where you design your own WWII fighter but having among your build options ultra light air frames and two cylinder engines and BB guns.

That would be ridiculous and no one, rightly would play it.

GLB is offering similar fare.

Originally posted by markm6770
Newly created dots with low attributes, when equally coordinated, play in incredibly competitive games.

Advanced/plateaued dots with superior builds, when equally coordinated, also play in incredibly competitive games.

The problem is that there are too many instances of poorly built dots with low attributes playing against advanced dots with superior builds.

The building process is not a problem. This is a ROLE PLAYING GAME and there should be NO RESTRICTIONS on how a dot can be built. If I want a weak-ass offensive tackle and can find an owner who will sign and play him... more power to me. I have that freedom and right.

Parity is the problem. A team that cannot compete should demote and rebuild. I OC multiple teams that have done this (See Austin Wineswilling Fancyboys and Barossa Grapestompers). We are back and stronger than ever. Some teams feel that playing in Pro is their God-given right when they obviously do not belong. The very best teams should be in Pro (which needs to be contracted, but that's another story for another time).







So in your role playing game cubscouts can walk on an NFL field?

Thats a pretty crappy game.

Originally posted by beenlurken
Chico High Panthers 7... 0 ST... 0%
Indianapolis Gurupies 17... 1 ST... 5.8%
Banzai Pipeline 'Nites 12... 1 ST... 8.3%
Hawaiian Kings 12... 1 ST... 8.3%
Smooth Criminals 12... 1 ST... 8.3%
Gold Coast Vipers 19... 2 ST... 10.5%
Northeast Arrowheads 9... 1 ST... 11%
Tasmanian Muskrats 25... 3 ST... 12%
Southern Cross Veritechs 24... 3 ST... 12.5%
A7 Jungle Stalkers 21... 3 ST... 14%
Pen Island Barrio 7... 1 ST... 14.3%
Java Brewers 13... 2 ST... 15.3%
Razorback Nation 13... 2 ST.. 15.3%
Black Hand Goal Line Mafia 19... 3 ST... 15.7%
Christchurch Fighting Maori 21... 4 ST... 19%
Bayou Blue Roux-Ga-Roux 10... 2 ST... 20%
Atlantis Aquatic Apes 19... 4 ST... 21%
Texas Aztecs 14... 3 ST... 21.4%
Asau Assassins 9... 2 ST... 22.2%
Sin City Spoilers 9... 2 ST... 22.2%
James Island Rams 21... 5 ST... 23.8%
Orlando Prime Timers 11... 3 ST... 27.2%
Black Sea Serpents 17... 5 ST... 29.4%
Barossa Grapestompers 12... 4 ST... 33.3%
Sydney Pelicans 6... 2 ST... 33.3%
Buda Pests 8... 3 ST... 37.5%
A7 Jungle Warfare 13... 5 ST... 38.4%
Texas Hogsnakes 17... 7 ST... 41%
Easter Island Moai 19... 9 ST... 47%
OffTopica Miracle 18... 10 ST... 55.5%
LIL KIFI 13... 8 ST... 61.5%


Yello... fix your returner build and ST's. There is not a problem with fumbles on ST's. Your problem with fumbles on ST's is YOU. Stop whining that the game is broken and fix your shit.


Not sure what that is? We cant be fumbling 55% of the time!

They said they upped it. I have the same returner I have had for a while now. He seems to be dropping more.

And while I have had someone fix my ST for me, it hasn't exactly helped alot. Maybe with the fumbles but lesser competition last couple of games on STs.

And they SAID they were kicking up the Fs.

Originally posted by evileyez
just reading this thread .... wow

yello, you are wasting the best thing you have going for you in this game. TIME. those that put in more time than others play the game better and win. instead, i generally see you making suggestions or arguing sim mechanics rather than focusing on the components of the game day to day. you are on here way too much to not have success. therefor, you are doing it wrong.

pick one team and focus. watch that team, watch how one dot behaves compared to another dot of yours, figure out the differences in behavior and why. then you start understanding what it takes at the dot level. watch WL games and figure out what is working AND why. try and replicate. when it doesn't work, figure out why.

this is much more productive and i'd wager better for your enjoyment of this game than making suggestions or arguing points to address issues you are having within the game.

There are times where you can work and their are times when you can chat.

And I can only spend so much time tweaking plays.

I think the plays are not that bad. I need better dots to find out.

Originally posted by yello1
Not sure what that is? We cant be fumbling 55% of the time!

They said they upped it. I have the same returner I have had for a while now. He seems to be dropping more.

And while I have had someone fix my ST for me, it hasn't exactly helped alot. Maybe with the fumbles but lesser competition last couple of games on STs.

And they SAID they were kicking up the Fs.




Im not surprised you cant understand a simple table. It is the % of team fumbles by returner. You dont have a point that there is a problem with ST fumbles when so many teams dont have a problem..

Clearly your ST coordinator did not fix your STs. Either he hates youor doesnt know shit about STs. Any sane person would realize thats the problem but you insist on blaming the SIM and ignoring the fact that most dont have a problem.

Originally posted by yello1

So in your role playing game cubscouts can walk on an NFL field?

Thats a pretty crappy game.

Yup... my cub scout player CAN walk onto an NFL field and play if he can find an owner dumb enough to recruit him. That team would then miss the playoffs and be relegated to a weaker league (and rightfully so).

World League is for the top 32... the cream of the crop. The Pro leagues should be where the next best 128 teams play.

Any team not in the top 160 should be in regional pro and below.

This game would be a lot more fun for you if you were seeing success and winning games consistently. Those leagues do exist. But quit crying that Bort needs to make my teams worse just so your teams can be better.

Originally posted by HOODjelly
Originally posted by markm6770



World League is for the top 32... the cream of the crop.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=4948


Inconcievable!

LOL.

When can you understand we are not simulate for NFL?

Originally posted by yello1

There is some merit to what you say but the nature of the players on the field is too large a component of a football simulation to say that its okay for an NFL simulation to allow Girl Scout level players on the field.

If people want to field the 1977 Bucanneers, well that was their mistake. But they would still not be as bad as half the teams in GLB today.

Thats not a good simulation, sorry.

To follow your analogy it would be like having a flight sim where you design your own WWII fighter but having among your build options ultra light air frames and two cylinder engines and BB guns.

That would be ridiculous and no one, rightly would play it.

GLB is offering similar fare.

Originally posted by beenlurken
Im not surprised you cant understand a simple table. It is the % of team fumbles by returner. You dont have a point that there is a problem with ST fumbles when so many teams dont have a problem..

Clearly your ST coordinator did not fix your STs. Either he hates youor doesnt know shit about STs. Any sane person would realize thats the problem but you insist on blaming the SIM and ignoring the fact that most dont have a problem.

Tables have labels on the data for a reason in every single context of their use from science to industry to the class room.

And wow, really? 55% Yikes. No wonder I am so annoyed by it.

Again,

1) They SAID they upped it. And it did go up for us season to season.

2) Whether its just me or not, it should not be happening. Unrealistic results are still unrealistic, regardless of how often. Girl scouts ought never to be on the field, ever, not even once. Etc, see above. Same points apply. Your lowest fumbling player should be your KR, its a part of that process to hold on to the ball precisely because it is so important.

3) You think he hate me?

Originally posted by aaasahi
When can you understand we are not simulate for NFL?

Originally posted by yello1


There is some merit to what you say but the nature of the players on the field is too large a component of a football simulation to say that its okay for an NFL simulation to allow Girl Scout level players on the field.

If people want to field the 1977 Bucanneers, well that was their mistake. But they would still not be as bad as half the teams in GLB today.

Thats not a good simulation, sorry.

To follow your analogy it would be like having a flight sim where you design your own WWII fighter but having among your build options ultra light air frames and two cylinder engines and BB guns.

That would be ridiculous and no one, rightly would play it.

GLB is offering similar fare.





When you can you understand that if we weren't, GLB would have no customers.

Originally posted by markm6770
Yup... my cub scout player CAN walk onto an NFL field and play if he can find an owner dumb enough to recruit him. That team would then miss the playoffs and be relegated to a weaker league (and rightfully so).

World League is for the top 32... the cream of the crop. The Pro leagues should be where the next best 128 teams play.

Any team not in the top 160 should be in regional pro and below.

This game would be a lot more fun for you if you were seeing success and winning games consistently. Those leagues do exist. But quit crying that Bort needs to make my teams worse just so your teams can be better.





I've had championship games, wins, etc. We dont always suck. And I DO enjoy the game, didnt spend four years and thousands of dollars here because it blows.

But then again I am stubborn.

As to the rest, you aren't getting it.

You can not have a simulation that does not simulate the subject.

Cubscouts on the field are not a part of the Pro Football Subject.

Originally posted by HOODjelly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=4948


Precisely.

The sim blows.

Yes a 0-16 season should be possible.

But not the norm.

And 100-x games should not happen in any pro sport simulation other than an NBA one.