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OBJ is not as bad as the media brainwashed you to think 😔

Funny thing is he talks of having class yet he's always the first to throw insults and name calling all because no one just oogles his perceived greatness. But whatever in the end. I'm gonna give him his wish and be done with this thread, unless he decides to start hurling insults again. He can keep on basking in his own perceived greatness, I'll keep on knowing it's false.

You are all MY multis - HAHAHA

Originally posted by 88Spam
OBJ is not as bad as the media brainwashed you to think 😔

fantasy football will tell you otherwise

Originally posted by RiverRat2
You are all MY multis - HAHAHA

I thought I was?

Originally posted by TJ Spikes
Yeah....

It's much better to have A 10 page flame war in the main forum.



C'mon mods move this to FFA



Yeah, it really is too bad that idiot ppl turn everything into a flame war. The solution is, these losers need not post to a forum that does not apply to them. Common fucking sense

Originally posted by 88Spam
OBJ is not as bad as the media brainwashed you to think 😔

The problem with OBJ is that he doesn't run routes, he just freelances, and that doesn't fit at all with most NFL offenses which are timing and route-combination based. 1-2-3 the ball has to be out. All that dancing and then not being where you are supposed to be doesn't work in the modern day NFL so much anymore...

Also the dude has been injured so many times he's scared of his shadow now. Its been sad to see his regression over the years and at this point, he is afraid to extend one arm to catch a ball. Its sad.

His real problem though is that he is an entitled mama's boy who's parents taught him that when anything goes wrong, its somebody else's fault. In that way, he is the American Dream. Its sad what has happened to this country, but no, I do not respect someone who blames other's for what is going wrong, gives up, and gets mommy and daddy to fight his battles. At one time OBJ was my favorite player, but I will never have respect for him as a person again. There's one rule for the powerful, another for everyone else... not in my book.

Originally posted by Bash E. Bull
Yeah, it really is too bad that idiot ppl turn everything into a flame war. The solution is, these losers need not post to a forum that does not apply to them. Common fucking sense

I mean call people "losers" if you can win at least 1 game. I think that should be fair.

Originally posted by PaqMarq11
I mean call people "losers" if you can win at least 1 game. I think that should be fair.



Just let it go and move on. No point in continuing this anymore.

Originally posted by Jeff Williams
Wow, this guy seric and his alter ego has zero class. Zero.

Is it worse to have 0 class, or 0-16 class?

I'm almost 100% sure you just dislike OBJ personally and due to that you haven't seen him play recently and just read the narratives by the media and let them dictate your opinion even more.

He's a 1k yard season guy every season he's been healthy... If he didn't fit in the NFL he wouldn't be getting 70+ catches and 1k+ yards even with limited touches this season he was projected to hit 70+ catches and 1k yards. (source ESPN) Probably won't be the case now with the recent move.

sure criticize his "antics" and what not, but don't discredit his play he's exceptional as a WR... It's a reason why when every top DB you can name and even the HOF retired ones has an interview or a question about who the top WRs are, they all put OBJ up there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a_QXqXsuUM

Watch this video and tell me how many of those throws is anyone else's but Mayfield's fault. I counted 10 passes, 7 terrible throws, 2 drops by OBJ and 1 slip up his route.


Originally posted by Bash E. Bull
The problem with OBJ is that he doesn't run routes, he just freelances, and that doesn't fit at all with most NFL offenses which are timing and route-combination based. 1-2-3 the ball has to be out. All that dancing and then not being where you are supposed to be doesn't work in the modern day NFL so much anymore...


You do know OBJ is notoriously known for taking 3-5 yard slant passes for 50 yard gains? So that's not the problem either the problem is the scheme. The Browns OC and HC are known for using their TEs and RBs over their WRs any browns football enthusiast (Not casual fan) can tell you this , They use OBJ as a deep threat decoy which will hinder any WR in the league if he doesn't get his touches and when he does his QB throws the Ball to the stands like Mayfield.

Now as far as Fantasy football goes, I'd probably never pick him for my team personally. As talented as he is... his temper is a wildcard.

Originally posted by 88Spam
You do know OBJ is notoriously known for taking 3-5 yard slant passes for 50 yard gains? So that's not the problem either the problem is the scheme. The Browns OC and HC are known for using their TEs and RBs over their WRs any browns football enthusiast (Not casual fan) can tell you this , They use OBJ as a deep threat decoy which will hinder any WR in the league if he doesn't get his touches and when he does his QB throws the Ball to the stands like Mayfield.

Now as far as Fantasy football goes, I'd probably never pick him for my team personally. As talented as he is... his temper is a wildcard.

I don't care about OBJ one way or the other. But from an outsider's perspective, he's obviously very talented, can't stay healthy, is a hinderance to his team/clubhouse, and hasn't been worth his contract for those reasons. Shut up and show what you can do on the field if you want to be considered a great player. He's had glimpses of greatness, and likely will again, but so do/have many many other players. The great ones are the ones who consistently do it day in and day out for years, and make those around them better. If OBJ's career ended today, only his biggest fans would remember him as anything other than an elite talent with a self-sabotage streak who never lived up to his potential, like so many before him.

...or he's as good as Jerry Rice, idk, it's all just opinions! lol

Originally posted by Bluesman
QUOTE=zz man]
Ah !! I hear the rustle of the Popcorn bag being opened !!!!

Hey zz man, bring that bag of popcorn over here to this thread (even though it might be a little stale by now) it's starting to get interesting again.

Bloody supply chain held up my popcorn til just now !!!!

Originally posted by Daedalus
I don't care about OBJ one way or the other. But from an outsider's perspective, he's obviously very talented, can't stay healthy, is a hinderance to his team/clubhouse, and hasn't been worth his contract for those reasons. Shut up and show what you can do on the field if you want to be considered a great player. He's had glimpses of greatness, and likely will again, but so do/have many many other players. The great ones are the ones who consistently do it day in and day out for years, and make those around them better. If OBJ's career ended today, only his biggest fans would remember him as anything other than an elite talent with a self-sabotage streak who never lived up to his potential, like so many before him.

...or he's as good as Jerry Rice, idk, it's all just opinions! lol

This. He freelances too much, especially for a timing and route combination majority system. I think lots of teams do it like this, the Browns use a a lot of mesh routes and stuff like that and I really don't think OBJ is willing to run into the crowded space and carry the coverage when the defensive play called will cover his route tree. Instead he'll just try to get open anyhow, I guess it look good to people on video who think he's always open, but the QB is going to look at that and not know what going on- when the route which supposed to be open as dictated by the coverage is not open because a WR isn't carrying his man through like he supposed to. His first season with the Browns he had a nice season in Dorsey's vertical passing system. The problem then was, the coach sucked. Now they have a good coach but he don't run a system that fits what Odell wants to do. It seems to me, most teams these days do not. OBJ could adapt easy, but I think we can all see the problem is that his parents raised him to believe he is always right and when things go wrong, it some one else's fault. It seems like they must still control his life, along with his business handlers and people. Its kind of sad, because I don't think this help him at all. Overall it probably helps the Browns because the offense moves better without him. But OBJ, unless he balls out in his last 7 games, his stock will be way down. Way more down instead of if he had finished the season in Cleveland, because then he could blame it on the system fit. But now he has cemented the perception of him as a distraction to the team. I really think he would have been great on the Browns had he tried to 'fit in', instead of 'fitting out'. Ironic it was LeBron who said that, because this the same. This is not a case of a good player being upset on a bad team- this is a good team and a good player who refused to get with the program.