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TrevJo
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Originally posted by bdnannac
If you can't Cut Block on ST's maybe you shouldn't be able to Pancake or Lead Block!


You never could lead block on STs.

Originally posted by MadCow DTD
what about TEs? or strength WRs... i was building a test blocking WR with cut block


http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4930111&page=3#45693590
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4930111&page=4#45695301
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Safest thing if that is your worry. Don't use aubibles and scout.


lol. The whole reason to have audibles is if the defense mixes it up between blitzing and not blitzing.
 
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Originally posted by cavalier
For a QB, carrying should not have be close to that. Having a sim that demands having it higher is not logical since carrying should reflect being able to handle the ball at full speed, doing all kinds of moves. If a QB should need 60+ carrying, a work-horse running back would have to be in the 150-200 range for it to be equivalent. Remember that 8 is a base value for a football player. A guy with 8 should still be able to hold on to the ball and take hits, and a guy with 8 in throwing should be able to throw the ball as every other normal human being with some physical abilities.


Its just not worth the effort putting into such an attribute. Speed of impact is gonna get ya regardless if it is high enough from a ff build.
 
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Originally posted by tragula
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Timeouts should be an input like QB spike. Leave it up to the AI's to call them. Offense or Defense.

RBs need a chip option so that an overload blitz with 4 blitzers (yes just 4) can be helped but the RB would still go out on his route but just delayed a bit.

As far as the 1 on 1 wrs being skipped/missed by the QB, what is considered open 1 on 1 in tight coverage or a double team with loose coverage?


plz don't

there is chip blocking.



there is, true; but they're about as useful as 5-capping catching on a CB.
 
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Originally posted by TrevJo
lol. The whole reason to have audibles is if the defense mixes it up between blitzing and not blitzing.


Right. But it is a hard thing to balance the potential blitz possibilities of the dpc and the blocking code.
 
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Originally posted by TrevJo

You never could lead block on STs.


Are you sure Trev? I thought Bort said as long as the definition didn't say anything about the line of scrimmage it would work. Maybe I should have said you shouldn't be able to use Get Low?
Edited by bdnannac on Jun 5, 2012 13:48:19
 
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Originally posted by TrevJo
Originally posted by bdnannac

If you can't Cut Block on ST's maybe you shouldn't be able to Pancake or Lead Block!


You never could lead block on STs.

Originally posted by MadCow DTD

what about TEs? or strength WRs... i was building a test blocking WR with cut block


http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4930111&page=3#45693590
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4930111&page=4#45695301


If the changes happens and it doesnt work for WRs anymore. I take it i would just be fucked? I mean i cant reset an SA just because GLB decides to change who can use it and when it can be used.
 
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You st's guys are so sensitive. Stops should just be terminated.
 
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Originally posted by MadCow DTD
If the changes happens and it doesnt work for WRs anymore. I take it i would just be fucked? I mean i cant reset an SA just because GLB decides to change who can use it and when it can be used.


Gotta tell ya Cow, I PM'd Catch and asked if there would be a refund. He said it was doubtful.
 
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Originally posted by bdnannac
Are you sure Trev? I thought Bort said as long as the definition didn't say anything about the line of scrimmage it would work. Maybe I should have said you shouldn't be able to use Get Low?


In the sense that getting lower than the defender is the same thing as chopping their shins?
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
You st's guys are so sensitive. Stops should just be terminated.


bhall I'm only pissed because they make it available and I hit level 79 and spend SP's on it. Then they make it not work and I can't change it now. Pretty dirty if you ask me. Especially when they said they were happy with ST's.
 
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Originally posted by bdnannac
Originally posted by TrevJo


You never could lead block on STs.


Are you sure Trev? I thought Bort said as long as the definition didn't say anything about the line of scrimmage it would work. Maybe I should have said you shouldn't be able to use Get Low?


I'm actually not so sure now looking at the Q&A wiki just now. I thought I remembered Bort saying it doesn't work on STs but I don't see it answered definitively.

There is this, though, from Feb 9 2011:
Question Can the lead block SA function on non-pulling OL? If a back is running behind a guard and at the start of the play the guard picks up the DT right across from him, could that ever be considered a 'lead block'? What if the guard immediately took 2 steps and engaged a linebacker, any difference?
Answer No, it only works when the blocker is doing some form of designed lead block via the play definition (pulling line or back).
Edited by TrevJo on Jun 5, 2012 13:53:17
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
In the sense that getting lower than the defender is the same thing as chopping their shins?


I don't know anymore man! I'm just getting tired of changing shit to fit the sim. Then they fuck you the next season.
 
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Originally posted by TrevJo
I'm actually not so sure now looking at the Q&A wiki just now. I thought I remembered Bort saying this but I don't see it.


I'm wondering why the change. It wasn't like ST's were dominating because of Cut Block.
 
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Originally posted by bdnannac
bhall I'm only pissed because they make it available and I hit level 79 and spend SP's on it. Then they make it not work and I can't change it now. Pretty dirty if you ask me. Especially when they said they were happy with ST's.


I get that. I was more or less saying there is logic behind not cut blocking in non line play. No logic in getting rid od of things like get low and pancake from st's.
 
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