Warrior General Games

I can reading people asking if their build is a "WL build". Can you tell which builds are WL builds and which are not?


Pos . . Elvl . . Str . . . Spd . . . Agi . . . Jmp . . . Sta . . . Vis . . . Cnf . . . Tck
DT . . . 78 . . . 133 . . . 70 . . . 90 . . . 26 . . . 57 . . . 70 . . . 42 . . . 82
DT . . . 75 . . . 145 . . . 75 . . . 88 . . . 30 . . . 64 . . . 69 . . . 51 . . . 80
DT . . . 75 . . . 145 . . . 90 . . . 88 . . . 36 . . . 57 . . . 63 . . . 46 . . . 62
DT . . . 81 . . . 141 . . . 79 . . . 101 . . . 12 . . . 51 . . . 75 . . . 37 . . . 86
DT . . . 81 . . . 150 . . . 74 . . . 99 . . . 54 . . . 63 . . . 68 . . . 34 . . . 82
DT . . . 79 . . . 158 . . . 79 . . . 85 . . . 53 . . . 64 . . . 69 . . . 61 . . . 78
DT . . . 79 . . . 155 . . . 79 . . . 90 . . . 55 . . . 64 . . . 70 . . . 60 . . . 79
DT . . . 81 . . . 148 . . . 56 . . . 101 . . . 20 . . . 56 . . . 81 . . . 65 . . . 81
DT . . . 82 . . . 159 . . . 82 . . . 90 . . . 35 . . . 66 . . . 73 . . . 57 . . . 85
DT . . . 84 . . . 153 . . . 85 . . . 101 . . . 27 . . . 64 . . . 69 . . . 52 . . . 84
DT . . . 81 . . . 153 . . . 79 . . . 88 . . . 64 . . . 56 . . . 75 . . . 53 . . . 81
DT . . . 83 . . . 154 . . . 87 . . . 93 . . . 18 . . . 67 . . . 61 . . . 61 . . . 81
DT . . . 83 . . . 154 . . . 87 . . . 93 . . . 18 . . . 67 . . . 61 . . . 61 . . . 81
DT . . . 81 . . . 156 . . . 81 . . . 100 . . . 11 . . . 63 . . . 72 . . . 50 . . . 77
DT . . . 80 . . . 162 . . . 69 . . . 93 . . . 20 . . . 65 . . . 71 . . . 49 . . . 80
DT . . . 84 . . . 159 . . . 76 . . . 94 . . . 34 . . . 65 . . . 67 . . . 56 . . . 80
DT . . . 79 . . . 161 . . . 80 . . . 93 . . . 44 . . . 60 . . . 66 . . . 49 . . . 83
DT . . . 82 . . . 152 . . . 76 . . . 96 . . . 33 . . . 62 . . . 70 . . . 52 . . . 80
DT . . . 78 . . . 164 . . . 68 . . . 89 . . . 31 . . . 61 . . . 52 . . . 50 . . . 81
DT . . . 83 . . . 161 . . . 78 . . . 93 . . . 27 . . . 68 . . . 62 . . . 57 . . . 79
DT . . . 80 . . . 162 . . . 76 . . . 91 . . . 28 . . . 61 . . . 76 . . . 50 . . . 86
DT . . . 82 . . . 152 . . . 72 . . . 102 . . . 28 . . . 61 . . . 62 . . . 48 . . . 77

Originally posted by kfd277
I can reading people asking if their build is a "WL build". Can you tell which builds are WL builds and which are not?


Pos . . Elvl . . Str . . . Spd . . . Agi . . . Jmp . . . Sta . . . Vis . . . Cnf . . . Tck
DT . . . 78 . . . 133 . . . 70 . . . 90 . . . 26 . . . 57 . . . 70 . . . 42 . . . 82
DT . . . 75 . . . 145 . . . 75 . . . 88 . . . 30 . . . 64 . . . 69 . . . 51 . . . 80
DT . . . 75 . . . 145 . . . 90 . . . 88 . . . 36 . . . 57 . . . 63 . . . 46 . . . 62
DT . . . 81 . . . 141 . . . 79 . . . 101 . . . 12 . . . 51 . . . 75 . . . 37 . . . 86
DT . . . 81 . . . 150 . . . 74 . . . 99 . . . 54 . . . 63 . . . 68 . . . 34 . . . 82
DT . . . 79 . . . 158 . . . 79 . . . 85 . . . 53 . . . 64 . . . 69 . . . 61 . . . 78
DT . . . 79 . . . 155 . . . 79 . . . 90 . . . 55 . . . 64 . . . 70 . . . 60 . . . 79
DT . . . 81 . . . 148 . . . 56 . . . 101 . . . 20 . . . 56 . . . 81 . . . 65 . . . 81
DT . . . 82 . . . 159 . . . 82 . . . 90 . . . 35 . . . 66 . . . 73 . . . 57 . . . 85
DT . . . 84 . . . 153 . . . 85 . . . 101 . . . 27 . . . 64 . . . 69 . . . 52 . . . 84
DT . . . 81 . . . 153 . . . 79 . . . 88 . . . 64 . . . 56 . . . 75 . . . 53 . . . 81
DT . . . 83 . . . 154 . . . 87 . . . 93 . . . 18 . . . 67 . . . 61 . . . 61 . . . 81
DT . . . 83 . . . 154 . . . 87 . . . 93 . . . 18 . . . 67 . . . 61 . . . 61 . . . 81
DT . . . 81 . . . 156 . . . 81 . . . 100 . . . 11 . . . 63 . . . 72 . . . 50 . . . 77
DT . . . 80 . . . 162 . . . 69 . . . 93 . . . 20 . . . 65 . . . 71 . . . 49 . . . 80
DT . . . 84 . . . 159 . . . 76 . . . 94 . . . 34 . . . 65 . . . 67 . . . 56 . . . 80
DT . . . 79 . . . 161 . . . 80 . . . 93 . . . 44 . . . 60 . . . 66 . . . 49 . . . 83
DT . . . 82 . . . 152 . . . 76 . . . 96 . . . 33 . . . 62 . . . 70 . . . 52 . . . 80
DT . . . 78 . . . 164 . . . 68 . . . 89 . . . 31 . . . 61 . . . 52 . . . 50 . . . 81
DT . . . 83 . . . 161 . . . 78 . . . 93 . . . 27 . . . 68 . . . 62 . . . 57 . . . 79
DT . . . 80 . . . 162 . . . 76 . . . 91 . . . 28 . . . 61 . . . 76 . . . 50 . . . 86
DT . . . 82 . . . 152 . . . 72 . . . 102 . . . 28 . . . 61 . . . 62 . . . 48 . . . 77


Well it depends on how each DC likes there DTs.

Originally posted by kfd277
I can reading people asking if their build is a "WL build". Can you tell which builds are WL builds and which are not?


Pos . . Elvl . . Str . . . Spd . . . Agi . . . Jmp . . . Sta . . . Vis . . . Cnf . . . Tck
DT . . . 78 . . . 133 . . . 70 . . . 90 . . . 26 . . . 57 . . . 70 . . . 42 . . . 82
DT . . . 75 . . . 145 . . . 75 . . . 88 . . . 30 . . . 64 . . . 69 . . . 51 . . . 80
DT . . . 75 . . . 145 . . . 90 . . . 88 . . . 36 . . . 57 . . . 63 . . . 46 . . . 62
DT . . . 81 . . . 141 . . . 79 . . . 101 . . . 12 . . . 51 . . . 75 . . . 37 . . . 86
DT . . . 81 . . . 150 . . . 74 . . . 99 . . . 54 . . . 63 . . . 68 . . . 34 . . . 82
DT . . . 79 . . . 158 . . . 79 . . . 85 . . . 53 . . . 64 . . . 69 . . . 61 . . . 78
DT . . . 79 . . . 155 . . . 79 . . . 90 . . . 55 . . . 64 . . . 70 . . . 60 . . . 79
DT . . . 81 . . . 148 . . . 56 . . . 101 . . . 20 . . . 56 . . . 81 . . . 65 . . . 81
DT . . . 82 . . . 159 . . . 82 . . . 90 . . . 35 . . . 66 . . . 73 . . . 57 . . . 85
DT . . . 84 . . . 153 . . . 85 . . . 101 . . . 27 . . . 64 . . . 69 . . . 52 . . . 84
DT . . . 81 . . . 153 . . . 79 . . . 88 . . . 64 . . . 56 . . . 75 . . . 53 . . . 81
DT . . . 83 . . . 154 . . . 87 . . . 93 . . . 18 . . . 67 . . . 61 . . . 61 . . . 81
DT . . . 83 . . . 154 . . . 87 . . . 93 . . . 18 . . . 67 . . . 61 . . . 61 . . . 81
DT . . . 81 . . . 156 . . . 81 . . . 100 . . . 11 . . . 63 . . . 72 . . . 50 . . . 77
DT . . . 80 . . . 162 . . . 69 . . . 93 . . . 20 . . . 65 . . . 71 . . . 49 . . . 80
DT . . . 84 . . . 159 . . . 76 . . . 94 . . . 34 . . . 65 . . . 67 . . . 56 . . . 80
DT . . . 79 . . . 161 . . . 80 . . . 93 . . . 44 . . . 60 . . . 66 . . . 49 . . . 83
DT . . . 82 . . . 152 . . . 76 . . . 96 . . . 33 . . . 62 . . . 70 . . . 52 . . . 80
DT . . . 78 . . . 164 . . . 68 . . . 89 . . . 31 . . . 61 . . . 52 . . . 50 . . . 81
DT . . . 83 . . . 161 . . . 78 . . . 93 . . . 27 . . . 68 . . . 62 . . . 57 . . . 79
DT . . . 80 . . . 162 . . . 76 . . . 91 . . . 28 . . . 61 . . . 76 . . . 50 . . . 86
DT . . . 82 . . . 152 . . . 72 . . . 102 . . . 28 . . . 61 . . . 62 . . . 48 . . . 77


Thats probably the closest one atm without seeing gear.
SA information and EQ missing as well.

Originally posted by kfd277
I can reading people asking if their build is a "WL build". Can you tell which builds are WL builds and which are not?


Pos . . Elvl . . Str . . . Spd . . . Agi . . . Jmp . . . Sta . . . Vis . . . Cnf . . . Tck
DT . . . 78 . . . 133 . . . 70 . . . 90 . . . 26 . . . 57 . . . 70 . . . 42 . . . 82
DT . . . 75 . . . 145 . . . 75 . . . 88 . . . 30 . . . 64 . . . 69 . . . 51 . . . 80
DT . . . 75 . . . 145 . . . 90 . . . 88 . . . 36 . . . 57 . . . 63 . . . 46 . . . 62
DT . . . 81 . . . 141 . . . 79 . . . 101 . . . 12 . . . 51 . . . 75 . . . 37 . . . 86
DT . . . 81 . . . 150 . . . 74 . . . 99 . . . 54 . . . 63 . . . 68 . . . 34 . . . 82
DT . . . 79 . . . 158 . . . 79 . . . 85 . . . 53 . . . 64 . . . 69 . . . 61 . . . 78
DT . . . 79 . . . 155 . . . 79 . . . 90 . . . 55 . . . 64 . . . 70 . . . 60 . . . 79
DT . . . 81 . . . 148 . . . 56 . . . 101 . . . 20 . . . 56 . . . 81 . . . 65 . . . 81
DT . . . 82 . . . 159 . . . 82 . . . 90 . . . 35 . . . 66 . . . 73 . . . 57 . . . 85
DT . . . 84 . . . 153 . . . 85 . . . 101 . . . 27 . . . 64 . . . 69 . . . 52 . . . 84
DT . . . 81 . . . 153 . . . 79 . . . 88 . . . 64 . . . 56 . . . 75 . . . 53 . . . 81
DT . . . 83 . . . 154 . . . 87 . . . 93 . . . 18 . . . 67 . . . 61 . . . 61 . . . 81
DT . . . 83 . . . 154 . . . 87 . . . 93 . . . 18 . . . 67 . . . 61 . . . 61 . . . 81
DT . . . 81 . . . 156 . . . 81 . . . 100 . . . 11 . . . 63 . . . 72 . . . 50 . . . 77
DT . . . 80 . . . 162 . . . 69 . . . 93 . . . 20 . . . 65 . . . 71 . . . 49 . . . 80
DT . . . 84 . . . 159 . . . 76 . . . 94 . . . 34 . . . 65 . . . 67 . . . 56 . . . 80
DT . . . 79 . . . 161 . . . 80 . . . 93 . . . 44 . . . 60 . . . 66 . . . 49 . . . 83
DT . . . 82 . . . 152 . . . 76 . . . 96 . . . 33 . . . 62 . . . 70 . . . 52 . . . 80
DT . . . 78 . . . 164 . . . 68 . . . 89 . . . 31 . . . 61 . . . 52 . . . 50 . . . 81
DT . . . 83 . . . 161 . . . 78 . . . 93 . . . 27 . . . 68 . . . 62 . . . 57 . . . 79
DT . . . 80 . . . 162 . . . 76 . . . 91 . . . 28 . . . 61 . . . 76 . . . 50 . . . 86
DT . . . 82 . . . 152 . . . 72 . . . 102 . . . 28 . . . 61 . . . 62 . . . 48 . . . 77



Without knowing gear, i would say these are the most likely to WL calibre, granted there are still alot of bad builds in WL.

I have multiple MVP DEs in my career as a Goallineblitz player, but this post is very good. The secret of building a killer DE (can't speak about DT as I don't know them) is pretty simple once you've figured out how Bort uses the calculations. Good luck guys.

Originally posted by Oli_b
Slightly easier to get a revcake now according to Bort.
"Reverse pancake chance bumped slightly in general".

As good an excuse as any to keep this thread at the top of the pile....?

When Bort says "slightly" he meant just that, slightly. There's no question Goallineblitz programmers (including Bort) are dominated by offensive-minded people, and they can care less about defense. Everytime the defense does something good it's "oh my gosh, I better nerf them", but everytime the offense dominates the defense it's "geez defensive guys, learn how to build."

Originally posted by BiggerBlue
When Bort says "slightly" he meant just that, slightly. There's no question Goallineblitz programmers (including Bort) are dominated by offensive-minded people, and they can care less about defense. Everytime the defense does something good it's "oh my gosh, I better nerf them", but everytime the offense dominates the defense it's "geez defensive guys, learn how to build."


Yea it's getting old. Big time.

I'm thinking of doing "Open Build for a Day" to spread the wealth of knowledge of DE, not saying I'm the best but I've certainty had more success lately. Especially one of my DE coming off a MVP season. I also want critiques and not just copy-cats, to tell me how I can improve further (if possible.) I will let this forum decide which day that should be so the most number of people can click into it and read the build and make good suggestions.

Originally posted by BiggerBlue
When Bort says "slightly" he meant just that, slightly. There's no question Goallineblitz programmers (including Bort) are dominated by offensive-minded people, and they can care less about defense. Everytime the defense does something good it's "oh my gosh, I better nerf them", but everytime the offense dominates the defense it's "geez defensive guys, learn how to build."


lol?

Originally posted by Drizzy
Yea it's getting old. Big time.

+1

BiggerBlue, I'd really appreciate a chance to get some insight on your DEs, especially since mine are getting their butts kicked this season

These past couple of seasons absolutely kills me with how DT’s go from relevant to useless. I am now happy to see a tackle and hurry in the same game. On the other hand, I laugh when CB’s lead the D with rev cakes... The lower number of rev cakes per game is an improvement towards realism, but oh well....

Originally posted by kfd277
I can reading people asking if their build is a "WL build". Can you tell which builds are WL builds and which are not?


Pos . . Elvl . . Str . . . Spd . . . Agi . . . Jmp . . . Sta . . . Vis . . . Cnf . . . Tck
DT . . . 78 . . . 133 . . . 70 . . . 90 . . . 26 . . . 57 . . . 70 . . . 42 . . . 82
DT . . . 75 . . . 145 . . . 75 . . . 88 . . . 30 . . . 64 . . . 69 . . . 51 . . . 80
DT . . . 75 . . . 145 . . . 90 . . . 88 . . . 36 . . . 57 . . . 63 . . . 46 . . . 62
DT . . . 81 . . . 141 . . . 79 . . . 101 . . . 12 . . . 51 . . . 75 . . . 37 . . . 86
DT . . . 81 . . . 150 . . . 74 . . . 99 . . . 54 . . . 63 . . . 68 . . . 34 . . . 82
DT . . . 79 . . . 158 . . . 79 . . . 85 . . . 53 . . . 64 . . . 69 . . . 61 . . . 78
DT . . . 79 . . . 155 . . . 79 . . . 90 . . . 55 . . . 64 . . . 70 . . . 60 . . . 79
DT . . . 81 . . . 148 . . . 56 . . . 101 . . . 20 . . . 56 . . . 81 . . . 65 . . . 81
DT . . . 82 . . . 159 . . . 82 . . . 90 . . . 35 . . . 66 . . . 73 . . . 57 . . . 85
DT . . . 84 . . . 153 . . . 85 . . . 101 . . . 27 . . . 64 . . . 69 . . . 52 . . . 84
DT . . . 81 . . . 153 . . . 79 . . . 88 . . . 64 . . . 56 . . . 75 . . . 53 . . . 81
DT . . . 83 . . . 154 . . . 87 . . . 93 . . . 18 . . . 67 . . . 61 . . . 61 . . . 81
DT . . . 83 . . . 154 . . . 87 . . . 93 . . . 18 . . . 67 . . . 61 . . . 61 . . . 81
DT . . . 81 . . . 156 . . . 81 . . . 100 . . . 11 . . . 63 . . . 72 . . . 50 . . . 77
DT . . . 80 . . . 162 . . . 69 . . . 93 . . . 20 . . . 65 . . . 71 . . . 49 . . . 80
DT . . . 84 . . . 159 . . . 76 . . . 94 . . . 34 . . . 65 . . . 67 . . . 56 . . . 80
DT . . . 79 . . . 161 . . . 80 . . . 93 . . . 44 . . . 60 . . . 66 . . . 49 . . . 83
DT . . . 82 . . . 152 . . . 76 . . . 96 . . . 33 . . . 62 . . . 70 . . . 52 . . . 80
DT . . . 78 . . . 164 . . . 68 . . . 89 . . . 31 . . . 61 . . . 52 . . . 50 . . . 81
DT . . . 83 . . . 161 . . . 78 . . . 93 . . . 27 . . . 68 . . . 62 . . . 57 . . . 79
DT . . . 80 . . . 162 . . . 76 . . . 91 . . . 28 . . . 61 . . . 76 . . . 50 . . . 86
DT . . . 82 . . . 152 . . . 72 . . . 102 . . . 28 . . . 61 . . . 62 . . . 48 . . . 77


Interesting series of builds. The range really surprises me for Conf and tackling. I understand that many folks (myself included) could care less about confidence, but with the large number of people pushing for 90+ tackling, there is not one on this list.

Originally posted by Roadrunner25
BiggerBlue, I'd really appreciate a chance to get some insight on your DEs, especially since mine are getting their butts kicked this season

Don't build like him and you'll be fine.

Originally posted by timthorn
These past couple of seasons absolutely kills me with how DT’s go from relevant to useless. I am now happy to see a tackle and hurry in the same game. On the other hand, I laugh when CB’s lead the D with rev cakes... The lower number of rev cakes per game is an improvement towards realism, but oh well....

I hear ya... 600 flex for a useless dot. I'd love to see someone like Wilfork/Suh/Ratlff/Ect put up these numbers and have a job next season.