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The Avenger
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Originally posted by Rage Kinard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXR62BDWPR4
0:23 - 1 man with hand on ground
0:32 - 2 men with hand on ground
0:55 - 2 men with hand on ground
1:06 - 2 men with hand on ground
6:45 - even better example of 2 man DL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xLbqNJWESY -

1:31 mark. Not a 1 man line, but definitely one of those defenses Bort says you would never see IRL.
2:06 mark a 2-4-4-1
2:52 (but you never see a DT way inside and a DE way outside). There isn't a DL between the DT covering the C and the DE outside where a strong side TE would be.
3:23 another one of those defenses Bort says doesn't exist IRL
3:58 3 man line. 1 DE drops and covers TE. The other DE drops into zone. Only down lineman that rushes is the NT.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ylXzKyiN9Q
0:51 - how many hands do you see on the ground?

I couldn't find a 2009 steeler defense highlight video. I'd love to point out some of the "exploit" blitzes they use.


Watch more football.


um, none of those are 1-6 defences
 
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Originally posted by The Avenger
Come on kid, your insecurity is obvious, come win Casual Pro.....or take 12+ seasons with a brand new team get to Casual Pro and still lose the finals, i'll be here to make sure your so-called LOL gameplan is truely LOL result!


Well, I'm not gonna lie, that is a great accomplishment...but, I still don't understand why you are against keeping the DPC? If there are no exploit blitzes in the CPU plays, or no tarded up blocking logic because the plays have been coded...then why don't you want the rest of GLB to be happy?
 
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Originally posted by zmj44
Wait...what is gameplanning in casuals?o_O

OOO!! I get to adjust %'s HOORAH!


Nevermind, your in the same "slower then molasses" built peewee leagues as D-town. I'll leave it alone, keep gameplanning those speed LB's with 65 speed! LOL
 
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Originally posted by zmj44
Wait...what is gameplanning in casuals?o_O

OOO!! I get to adjust %'s HOORAH!


LOL that is why he wants to rid of the DPC, he doesn't know how to use it.
He couldn't even set up a 3-4 defense and he is talking like he knows a DAI.
I have first hand knowledge he knows squat about AI's! Special Teams is all he can do other than Casual.

Let's get some real gamers on here besides a limited liability one. Sit your ass in Casual League where you belong and learn how to run a defense with the DPC/DAI. You need hooked on phonics too learn? Why don't you go scroll through 30 threads and learn to coordinate (besides casual league) then come back when your a big boy.
Edited by D~Town on Nov 8, 2010 20:19:56
 
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Originally posted by zmj44
Well, I'm not gonna lie, that is a great accomplishment...but, I still don't understand why you are against keeping the DPC? If there are no exploit blitzes in the CPU plays, or no tarded up blocking logic because the plays have been coded...then why don't you want the rest of GLB to be happy?


I do, my problem is, i have experienced my first full season as an exclusive OC in Pro (not LOL 75 speed LB's in Peewee) and more times then not i had criss-crossing OT's blocking or Center's pulling left on pass blocking or all in all i need to hold back the FB, HB and TE all at the same time with a QB in -99 pass style to even get a pass away withing 1.5 ticks because a MLB and ROLB on a little 3-4 defence had easy, easy times getting through and builds or VA's on the Oline had nothing to do with it if they're untouched.

The same whining DC's complained about tipped passes still being caught or even better, WR's making catches in triple coverage...well guess what, when you can only send 2 recievers safely you pray for those with out an easy pick which also happens to happen waaaay more then our beloved NFL.....
Edited by The Avenger on Nov 8, 2010 20:00:37
 
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Originally posted by Bloodfart
Originally posted by bug03

Avenger, please stop posting.




 
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Originally posted by D~Town
LOL that is why he wants to rid of the DPC, he doesn't know how to use it.
He couldn't even set up a 3-4 defense and he is talking like he knows a DAI.
I have first hand knowledge you knows squat! Special Teams is all he can do other than Casual.

Let's get some real gamers on here besides a limited liability one. Sit your ass in Casual League where you belong and learn how to run a defense with the DPC/DAI. You need hooked on phonics too learn? Why don't you go scroll through 30 threads and learn to coordinate (besides casual league) then come back when your a big boy.


This response sounded like a mouse pip-squeaking away from the hole in the wall.....*we do it the right way here in peewee toonball*
 
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Sad thing is PeeWee is more advanced than casual where you come from..........Pot meet kettle
 
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You realize I could very well call 140 speed dots LOL with the same exact argument?
It is harder with no VAs, lower attributes and "cookie cutter" builds...

It is pretty hard in PW gold when all teams have virtually the same builds, all scouting and actual AIs...builds are minor imo
 
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Originally posted by D~Town
Sad thing is PeeWee is more advanced than casual where you come from..........Pot meet kettle


More advanced yes. Its apples and oranges at this point in comparison though.

I'm interested to see what the DPC will look like. I am 1000% positive i will be taking on a DC job soon so most of my posts are trying to be revelant to the OP. I'm not an offensive lover at all by all means, defence wins my LOL Casual Pro and since i've watched more PBP then there are re-runs of Seinfeld, it won't be totally chinese to me when i to play around with regular defences creation....
 
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Originally posted by The Avenger

Shall i link more then a dozen formations you see in the WL that are considered 2-5-3-1 or 3-1-3-2-1 or 4-1-2-1-2-1???


So since your example of a 2-5 defense was a 3-1-7 quarter, I have to ask where you are getting these numbers from. I don't know if you know, but in a 3-1-7, it means that there is 3 DL, 1 LB and 7 DBs. It doesn't mean that 3 guys are on the line, 1 guy is right behind them and then 7 guys are lined up in a line behind him
 
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Originally posted by Hcreek27
So since your example of a 2-5 defense was a 3-1-7 quarter, I have to ask where you are getting these numbers from. I don't know if you know, but in a 3-1-7, it means that there is 3 DL, 1 LB and 7 DBs. It doesn't mean that 3 guys are on the line, 1 guy is right behind them and then 7 guys are lined up in a line behind him


With custom defensive positions, and near ENDLESS player placement on the field, the "standard" 3-1-7 or 2-5 is thrown right out the window in GLB.

oh and......

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Originally posted by The Avenger
With custom defensive positions, and near ENDLESS player placement on the field, the "standard" 3-1-7 or 2-5 is thrown right out the window in GLB.

oh and......

Copyright © 2008 GoalLineBlitz.com, all rights reserved. Goal Line Blitz is not affiliated with the NFL or any other professional football league.



Not seeing the connection between GLB not being affiliated with the NFL and you calling a defense with 3 down linemen and 7 DBs a 2-5.
 
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Some of you have no idea wtf your talking about when it comes to identifying defensive formations and really should step away from this thread because your showing your absolute ignorance of the game.

Moving along, We (PeeWee Community) want the DPC. Don't dumb down the game for the sake of some. The brilliance in GLB Dotball is the flexibility and total control over the DPC and the OAI/DAI.

If anything we need to give the DC's ability to manually set Def Players to play Run or Pass Focus.
Edited by DirtyMike on Nov 8, 2010 21:14:45
 
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Originally posted by zmj44
Well, I'm not gonna lie, that is a great accomplishment...but, I still don't understand why you are against keeping the DPC? If there are no exploit blitzes in the CPU plays, or no tarded up blocking logic because the plays have been coded...then why don't you want the rest of GLB to be happy?


Casual play or just using the CPU D and O is a game of toss the dice. Nothing more. With the DPC you can play a game of tactics.
 
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