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slashxtreme
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Why is Jumping not a major skill for a receiving TE... Jumping is crucial in catching passes.
Edited by tuba_samurai on Feb 17, 2010 19:15:08 (Changed for clarification.)
 
Staz
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Well,

Originally posted by Staz
I totally overlooked the fact that receiving TE had blocking a minor and doesn't have jumping anywhere...



I don't feel like reading through the thread to see if this was overlooked or intended


Originally posted by Catch22
intended - we removed jumping and replaced with blocking because all TE's should have blocking.

 
jdbolick
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Yeah. In theory it would be nice to give them jumping too, but adding another major or minor would have hurt the ALGs too much.
 
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Originally posted by Staz
Well,

Originally posted by Staz

I totally overlooked the fact that receiving TE had blocking a minor and doesn't have jumping anywhere...



I don't feel like reading through the thread to see if this was overlooked or intended


Originally posted by Catch22

intended - we removed jumping and replaced with blocking because all TE's should have blocking.



that makes no sense - sounds liek trying to make a receiving TE more balanced - i thought the point of the archetypes was to differentiate one from another - and to truly be receiving jumping would make more sense then blocking, especially since you can designate when your TE would be in the game so you may have to never worry about him blocking

and just because they are a TE doesnt mean they have to be able to block
 
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Originally posted by eaglesfan20
and just because they are a TE doesnt mean they have to be able to block

Yeah, it pretty much does.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Yeah, it pretty much does.


Everyone knows that the strength/agilitiy interaction (particularly on run plays since most people run away) is more important than the blocking attribute anyway :-p That said, I'm not against Jumping not being included but I think that a Coverage LB would just absolutely dominate any type of TE because of the way that the majors are for LB'ers.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Yeah, it pretty much does.


then we disagree
 
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Originally posted by slashxtreme
Everyone knows that the strength/agilitiy interaction (particularly on run plays since most people run away) is more important than the blocking attribute anyway :-p That said, I'm not against Jumping not being included but I think that a Coverage LB would just absolutely dominate any type of TE because of the way that the majors are for LB'ers.

Blocking is definitely important, but that's not really the point anyway. As for the latter, receiving TEs seem to suck pretty much regardless with a handful of exceptions. We have a guy with a great build and have tried everything possible to get him the ball, but it just hasn't worked for the last few seasons.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by slashxtreme

Everyone knows that the strength/agilitiy interaction (particularly on run plays since most people run away) is more important than the blocking attribute anyway :-p That said, I'm not against Jumping not being included but I think that a Coverage LB would just absolutely dominate any type of TE because of the way that the majors are for LB'ers.

Blocking is definitely important, but that's not really the point anyway. As for the latter, receiving TEs seem to suck pretty much regardless with a handful of exceptions. We have a guy with a great build and have tried everything possible to get him the ball, but it just hasn't worked for the last few seasons.


Speed TEs get very open and are very difficult to cover man-2-man... fix your progressions?
 
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Originally posted by slashxtreme
Everyone knows that the strength/agilitiy interaction (particularly on run plays since most people run away) is more important than the blocking attribute anyway :-p That said, I'm not against Jumping not being included but I think that a Coverage LB would just absolutely dominate any type of TE because of the way that the majors are for LB'ers.


Jumping is only really needed if the QB can't throw it to you. If you have to jump for the ball, it's a bad throw. However, on D, it's used to jump routes, diving tackles as well as jump UP and fight for a pass that's thrown too high.
 
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Originally posted by Staz
Jumping is only really needed if the QB can't throw it to you. If you have to jump for the ball, it's a bad throw.


That's not entirely true.

Originally posted by Bort
The better the QB is, the more likely he is to throw it to your numbers, and the less you'll need jumping to help you out when you're open. However, if you're being covered, the QB might throw it high to help you get it, or you might have to jump to out-do the coverage man.
 
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Originally posted by Time Trial
Speed TEs get very open and are very difficult to cover man-2-man... fix your progressions?

Play some WL defenses and then talk to me about how open TEs get.
 
tuba_samurai
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Is it really that big a deal. At most you would soft cap it, so just train it up with str, stamina, and/or catching. Now that you can keep TEs in to block on blitzes, having blocking as an ALG makes sense.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Play some WL defenses and then talk to me about how open TEs get.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=684491

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Originally posted by jdbolick

Yeah, it pretty much does.


Ask Dallas Clark.
 
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