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Originally posted by ijg
So why doesn't the speed script show this boost? Many of us have tested it in the past and speed script shows no change with and w/o the VA (used preseason resets to add and remove it off same player, so was comping apples & apples).

This is a really simple test. Run a set of games with VA on. Check speed script for 3rd down vs 1st and 2nd. Run another set of games with VA off. Repeat speed script analysis.

Bort did just that by adding a bonus to speed if he could see any difference.

We dont get that bonus, so we dont see any speed boost.

8 hurries in today's game.

Here are the 3rd down plays.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1079797&pbp_id=4665130
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1079797&pbp_id=4665869
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1079797&pbp_id=4668954
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1079797&pbp_id=4671163
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1079797&pbp_id=4671659
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1079797&pbp_id=4672119

Originally posted by Meatdawg
8 hurries in today's game.

Here are the 3rd down plays.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1079797&pbp_id=4665130
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1079797&pbp_id=4665869
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1079797&pbp_id=4668954
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1079797&pbp_id=4671163
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1079797&pbp_id=4671659
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1079797&pbp_id=4672119

Awesome. Only took 5 seasons but it appears to now work

Originally posted by Meatdawg
Bort did just that by adding a bonus to speed if he could see any difference.

We dont get that bonus, so we dont see any speed boost.

sorry, my bad, I was confusing definition with blitz. In similar tests with blitz, there is no speed boost. I think the pass rusher tests we did in the past were just charting hurries and sacks as a % of 3rd down plays vs other downs.

I wouldn't get too far ahead of yourselves. I think something like 30 of my DEs sacks are 3rd downs, without pass rusher... 3rd down situations are long a lot of the time, meaning pass meaning more room to do work.