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Originally posted by Nuge20
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert

Originally posted by Bort


+Pass Quality for short passes, less likely to throw an errant pass.

Could you provide 1 line descriptors like this for ALL the SAs?

plz "the developer"

Would be pretty nice. We get fairly concise descriptions for most of the VAs, but SAs are so vague. We know the numbers for the VAs, but not the SAs, and I don't see the reasoning. We still don't know the "base chance" on stuff (like tackle chance, INT chance etc), and we never will, so it's not like handing over the code.

whoa i just noticed the thread titles all got changed here.

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by Bort

+Pass Quality for short passes, less likely to throw an errant pass.

Could you provide 1 line descriptors like this for ALL the SAs?


Yes - do this and you'll have 20 virgins waiting for you in the after life

There might be some angry mob with pitchforks though when its realize that strong base boosts confidence, for example.

Originally posted by TxSteve
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert

Originally posted by Bort


+Pass Quality for short passes, less likely to throw an errant pass.

Could you provide 1 line descriptors like this for ALL the SAs?


Yes - do this and you'll have 20 virgins waiting for you in the after life

Dang, that's harsh! Those must be some ugly men or women if they made it to the afterlife having never had sex on Earth in their lifetimes!

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Dang, that's harsh! Those must be some ugly men or women if they made it to the afterlife having never had sex on Earth in their lifetimes!

Who said how old they were?

Nobody, I don't know their age, just inferring and guessing they are ugly if they are still virgins.

everyone is beautiful in Heaven; TSE -


please stop trying to talk Bort out of my proposed agreement

Originally posted by TxSteve
everyone is beautiful in Heaven; TSE -


please stop trying to talk Bort out of my proposed agreement

But there are people on this Earth that acknowledge they are ugly and are very proud of themselves for who they are, if they converted to "beautiful" in the afterlife that might be something that they would not want. What kind of Heaven would FORCE people to go through a makeover or alter their perceived appearance, that sounds like Hell more than prison for those that don't want that! They might cherish the quality of "ugliness" in general. There's lots of people out there dude with lots of unique perspectives.

ITT: Total Threadtonic Reversal

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by Bort

+Pass Quality for short passes, less likely to throw an errant pass.

Could you provide 1 line descriptors like this for ALL the SAs?

I agree that some SA's are vague, but dump pass was never one of these. I always read the description as a bonus to pass quality under 5 yards, fwiw. I mean, tbh, what else could it be?

Yeah but even that, we don't know precisely what pass quality means, and specifically that it relates to "errant" passes. Pass Quality could be maybe the ball has less spiral effect and easier to catch as just 1 possible example, but specifically to be an "errant" pass is something different. It's a lot more specific information to give us a feel for what it is, rather than in general saying "good for short passes" which doesn't really tell us anything specific.


Definitely not ground breaking information, but information nevertheless. I don't care about the info to help my build of my QB at this point, I just want the information for my satisfaction of my curiosity and to know more specifics of how things work in case it helps me figure out other angles or outside of the box ways to improve down the road. More info can only help and not hurt, and eliminate some of the mystery of how this game is designed.

For example, let's say I was concerned with short passes. Well knowing "errant" passes are helped with this SA, maybe previously I was thinking it has to do with the quality or spiral of the throw, and to fix it I was telling my WR to increase his catching score. Well now I don't have to tell him that because his catching score doesn't affect the "errant" passes, so maybe i put points into this SA now instead of telling my WR to up his catching? Or RB for that matter since he might be the target of a lot of short passes.

An errant pass is simply a pass which had a very bad "pass quality score" and is the equivalent of a bad throw in the pbp. Bort said 1 thing (helps pass quality) not two things when he descripted what dump pass does...

Originally posted by sbuck143


1) I suggest modifying the description in the SA to be a little more clear (like Tight Spiral is)



Unfortunately, we still haven't modified the definitions of 1st step or TV on the player pages. Those should be done first, imo.

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
An errant pass is simply a pass which had a very bad "pass quality score" and is the equivalent of a bad throw in the pbp. Bort said 1 thing (helps pass quality) not two things when he descripted what dump pass does...

I don't automatically agree with what you say there. If Bort doesn't say it, I can't verify it to be true, so I don't know what to make of that statement.