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RyanCane26
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Playing with the VPB a lot more than usual the last couple of days, I know there is a standard BT estimate many use when trying to plan 3 AEQ vs. 4 AEQ, anyone have that handy?

I'm guessing 3 AEQ ~1200, 4 AEQ ~1550?
 
slughead42
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4 aeq with 75 point skills is 1700, unless you are able to save some shopping. Two 75 point with two 38 point pieces is 1,626, again if you don't save some shopping.
 
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I always aim for roughly 1600 and shop. Usually works out great. Sometimes I get screwed out of an upgrade or two.
 
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Keep in mind idk anything about dotbuilding.

But I always thought the assumption was 1200 3AE and 1600 4AE.

425+425+368+368 = 1586 if that's up your alley.
 
TJ Spikes
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Yeah, 1600 is my ball park, no idea what will translate to in days yet. Used to be easy to remember, age 160 for 1600.





 
RyanCane26
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Thanks all
 
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
Yeah, 1600 is my ball park, no idea what will translate to in days yet. Used to be easy to remember, age 160 for 1600



Would now be the offseason after when you hit age 80.
 
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
I always aim for roughly 1600 and shop. Usually works out great. Sometimes I get screwed out of an upgrade or two.


1200 for a 3aeq dot
 
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Wish they would clean up some of those horrible store combinations.
 
ProfessionalKop
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Originally posted by Bluesman
1200 for a 3aeq dot


No thank you
 
Theo Wizzago
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Ok. So this one took me a while but I've wanted this for a long time. Something real easy to look at and figure out EXACTLY what I need, when I need it, when to switch to light training for BT's, and all that jazz.
NOTE! This is based off of the idea of a 4 AEQ dot but will work for 3 or less AEQ as well. The numbers are the same. It also assumes you HAVE all 4 AEQ already and does NOT consider the cost of purchasing (or building) the AEQ... only what you need to FINISH the AEQ (which is 1,200 BT's for 4 AEQ).

How it works is simple. Just use the Key;

Season # is the season of the dot's career. There are 8 seasons in a dot's growing life, not counting the few days into his Plateau (the preseason before final boosts).

The Day # is the day of that season.

The = 6 is the number of BT's you'll get for light training that day. (A simple reminder)

The number inside the (#)'s is the number of BT's you need to finish your AEQ... counting backwards from the last day of the dot at plateau. I did it this way so you could look at your dot, note the current day in his career, and see exactly how many BT's you will get if you switched to Light Training right at that day. This is the most important part of it all. An easy way to know exactly where you are and what you need. Just take all the BT's you have currently, add in any BT value in AEQ upgrades you've already done so far, subtract that from 1,200 (max needed for a 4 AEQ dot) and viola`! You know what day you need to stop Multi-training at!
(NOTE!!! Pay attention to the DAY as well as your dot's AGE as players do NOT age during the off season or the preseason!)
(NOTE!!! I did NOT include the last few final days of Preseason before final boosts and Plateau. This is a BT cushion just in case you get it wrong by a day or two! Always allow for 'shit happens'!)

Example; I have a 4 AEQ dot, age 158 days. He has 4 AEQ that have already been upgraded with 30 BT's so far. He has 20 BT's in his pocket. That's 50. 50-1,200= 1,150 total BT's needed to finish out his AEQ. I find that number (1,150) and see that I must stop today (day 37, age 157, season #5), at his current age, to get enough BT's to finish. And so I did just that.

Guide below;

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
In reverse;

Day of season (#) = # of BT’s gained that day --- (Total BT’s needed for dot [cumulative]) --- [dot’s age]

Note! It takes 20 days to upgrade all 4 AEQ one level.

* --- denotes each time you have enough BT's to upgrade 1 AEQ piece.

*+ --- denotes each time you have enough BT's (120) to upgrade all 4 AEQ pieces.

Season #8 (reaching plateau)
Last Preseason
Day -4 = 6 (6) --- [280]
Day -5 = 6 (12) --- [280]
Day -6 = 6 (18) --- [280]
Day -7 = 6 (24) --- [280]
Day -8 = 6 (30*) --- [280]
Day -9 = 6 (36) --- [280]

Season #7
Day 48 = 6 (42) --- [280]
Day 47 = 6 (48) --- [280]
Day 46 = 6 (54) --- [280]
Day 45 = 6 (60*) --- [280]
Day 44 = 6 (66) --- [280]
Day 43 = 6 (72) --- [280]
Day 42 = 6 (78) --- [280]
Day 41 = 6 (84) --- [280]
Day 40 = 6 (90*) --- [280]
Day 39 = 6 (96) --- [279]
Day 38 = 6 (102) --- [278]
Day 37 = 6 (108) --- [277]
Day 36 = 6 (114) --- [276]
Day 35 = 6 (120*+) --- [275]
Day 34 = 6 (126) --- [274]
Day 33 = 6 (132) --- [273]
Day 32 = 6 (138) --- [272]
Day 31 = 6 (144) --- [271]
Day 30 = 6 (150*) --- [270]
Day 29 = 6 (156) --- [269]
Day 28 = 6 (162) --- [268]
Day 27 = 6 (168) --- [267]
Day 26 = 6 (174) --- [266]
Day 25 = 6 (180*) --- [265]
Day 24 = 6 (186) --- [264]
Day 23 = 6 (192) --- [263]
Day 22 = 6 (198) --- [262]
Day 21 = 6 (204) --- [261]
Day 20 = 6 (210*) --- [260]
Day 19 = 6 (216) --- [259]
Day 18 = 6 (222) --- [258]
Day 17 = 6 (228) --- [257]
Day 16 = 6 (234) --- [256]
Day 15 = 6 (240*+) --- [255]
Day 14 = 6 (246) --- [254]
Day 13 = 6 (252) --- [253]
Day 12 = 6 (258) --- [252]
Day 11 = 6 (264) --- [251]
Day 10 = 6 (270*) --- [250]
Day 9 = 6 (276) --- [249]
Day 8 = 6 (282) --- [248]
Day 7 = 6 (288) --- [247]
Day 6 = 6 (294) --- [246]
Day 5 = 6 (300*) --- [245]
Day 4 = 6 (306) --- [244]
Day 3 = 6 (312) --- [243]
Day 2 = 6 (318) --- [242]
Day 1 = 6 (324) --- [241]
Day -0 = 6 (330*) --- [240]
Day -1 = 6 (336) --- [240]
Day -2 = 6 (342) --- [240]
Day -3 = 6 (348) --- [240]
Day -4 = 6 (354) --- [240]
Day -5 = 6 (360*+) --- [240]
Day -6 = 6 (366) --- [240]
Day -7 = 6 (372) --- [240]
Day -8 = 6 (378) --- [240]
Day -9 = 6 (384) --- [240]

Season#6
Day 48 = 6 (390*) --- [240]
Day 47 = 6 (396) --- [240]
Day 46 = 6 (402) --- [240]
Day 45 = 6 (408) --- [240]
Day 44 = 6 (414) --- [240]
Day 43 = 6 (420*) --- [240]
Day 42 = 6 (426) --- [240]
Day 41 = 6 (432) --- [240]
Day 40 = 6 (438) --- [240]
Day 39 = 6 (444) --- [239]
Day 38 = 6 (450*) --- [238]
Day 37 = 6 (456) --- [237]
Day 36 = 6 (462) --- [236]
Day 35 = 6 (468) --- [235]
Day 34 = 6 (474) --- [234]
Day 33 = 6 (480*+) --- [233]
Day 32 = 6 (486) --- [232]
Day 31 = 6 (492) --- [231]
Day 30 = 6 (498) --- [230]
Day 29 = 6 (504) --- [229]
Day 28 = 6 (510*) --- [228]
Day 27 = 6 (516) --- [227]
Day 26 = 6 (522) --- [226]
Day 25 = 6 (528) --- [225]
Day 24 = 6 (534) --- [224]
Day 23 = 6 (540*) --- [223]
Day 22 = 6 (546) --- [222]
Day 21 = 6 (552) --- [221]
Day 20 = 6 (558) --- [220]
Day 19 = 6 (564) --- [219]
Day 18 = 6 (570*) --- [218]
Day 17 = 6 (576) --- [217]
Day 16 = 6 (582) --- [216]
Day 15 = 6 (588) --- [215]
Day 14 = 6 (594) --- [214]
Day 13 = 6 (600*+) --- [213]
Day 12 = 6 (606) --- [212]
Day 11 = 6 (612) --- [211]
Day 10 = 6 (618) --- [210]
Day 9 = 6 (624) --- [209]
Day 8 = 6 (630*) --- [208]
Day 7 = 6 (636) --- [207]
Day 6 = 6 (642) --- [206]
Day 5 = 6 (648) --- [205]
Day 4 = 6 (654) --- [204]
Day 3 = 6 (660*) --- [203]
Day 2 = 6 (666) --- [202]
Day 1 = 6 (672) --- [201]
Day -0 = 6 (678) --- [200]
Day -1 = 6 (684) --- [200]
Day -2 = 6 (690*) --- [200]
Day -3 = 6 (696) --- [200]
Day -4 = 6 (702) --- [200]
Day -5 = 6 (708) --- [200]
Day -6 = 6 (714) --- [200]
Day -7 = 6 (720*+) --- [200]
Day -8 = 6 (726) --- [200]
Day -9 = 6 (732) --- [200]

Season #5
Day 48 = 6 (738) --- [200]
Day 47 = 6 (744) --- [200]
Day 46 = 6 (750*) --- [200]
Day 45 = 6 (756) --- [200]
Day 44 = 6 (762) --- [200]
Day 43 = 6 (768) --- [200]
Day 42 = 6 (774) --- [200]
Day 41 = 6 (780*) --- [200]
Day 40 = 6 (786) --- [200]
Day 39 = 6 (792) --- [199]
Day 38 = 6 (798) --- [198]
Day 37 = 6 (804) --- [197]
Day 36 = 6 (810*) --- [196]
Day 35 = 6 (816) --- [195]
Day 34 = 6 (822) --- [194]
Day 33 = 6 (828) --- [193]
Day 32 = 6 (834) --- [192]
Day 31 = 6 (840*+) --- [191]
Day 30 = 6 (846) --- [190]
Day 29 = 6 (852) --- [189]
Day 28 = 6 (858) --- [188]
Day 27 = 6 (864) --- [187]
Day 26 = 6 (870*) --- [186]
Day 25 = 6 (876) --- [185]
Day 24 = 6 (882) --- [184]
Day 23 = 6 (888) --- [183]
Day 22 = 6 (894) --- [182]
Day 21 = 6 (900*) --- [181]
Day 20 = 6 (906) --- [180]
Day 19 = 6 (912) --- [179]
Day 18 = 6 (918) --- [178]
Day 17 = 6 (924) --- [177]
Day 16 = 6 (930*) --- [176]
Day 15 = 6 (936) --- [175]
Day 14 = 6 (942) --- [174]
Day 13 = 6 (948) --- [173]
Day 12 = 6 (954) --- [172]
Day 11 = 6 (960*+) --- [171]
Day 10 = 6 (966) --- [170]
Day 9 = 6 (972) --- [169]
Day 8 = 6 (978) --- [168]
Day 7 = 6 (984) --- [167]
Day 6 = 6 (990*) --- [166]
Day 5 = 6 (996) --- [165]
Day 4 = 6 (1002) --- [164]
Day 3 = 6 (1008) --- [163]
Day 2 = 6 (1014) --- [162]
Day 1 = 6 (1020*) --- [161]
Day -0 = 6 (1026) --- [160]
Day -1 = 6 (1032) --- [160]
Day -2 = 6 (1038) --- [160]
Day -3 = 6 (1044) --- [160]
Day -4 = 6 (1050*) --- [160]
Day -5 = 6 (1056) --- [160]
Day -6 = 6 (1062) --- [160]
Day -7 = 6 (1068) --- [160]
Day -8 = 6 (1074) --- [160]
Day -9 = 6 (1080*+) --- [160]

Season #4
Day 48 = 6 (1086) --- [160]
Day 47 = 6 (1092) --- [160]
Day 46 = 6 (1098) --- [160]
Day 45 = 6 (1104) --- [160]
Day 44 = 6 (1110*) --- [160]
Day 43 = 6 (1116) --- [160]
Day 42 = 6 (1122) --- [160]
Day 41 = 6 (1128) --- [160]
Day 40 = 6 (1134) --- [160]
Day 39 = 6 (1140*) --- [159]
Day 38 = 6 (1146) --- [158]
Day 37 = 6 (1152) --- [157]
Day 36 = 6 (1158) --- [156]
Day 35 = 6 (1164) --- [155]
Day 34 = 6 (1170*) --- [154]
Day 33 = 6 (1176) --- [153]
Day 32 = 6 (1182) --- [151]
Day 31 = 6 (1188) --- [150]
Day 30 = 6 (1194) --- [149]
Day 29 = 6 (1200*+) --- [148]

 
slughead42
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Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Ok.


Theo, I love you, and I hate to tell you this, but this will now have to be completely redone.
 
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
Yeah, 1600 is my ball park, no idea what will translate to in days yet. Used to be easy to remember, age 160 for 1600.

this

day 160 4 piece
day 200 3 piece

 
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will need math nerds to figure this out with the new system btw
 
Theo Wizzago
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Originally posted by slughead42
Theo, I love you, and I hate to tell you this, but this will now have to be completely redone.


Oh fuck me.

(edit) I think, unless the AEQ changes somehow, the BT requirements/costs will remain the same. Maybe. At this hour, with this dead tired brain, who tf knows?
Edited by Theo Wizzago on Jun 1, 2023 20:55:47
 
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