Warrior General Games

- Hurdle power increased to be similar in strength to spin, but based off of jumping

I don't know any dots that have it. Curious if the sim buff has made it worthwhile?

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well you need pretty high agility for spin to fire, so I'd assume no one has any mid 80s jumping dots with hurdle running around

I'm tempted to add it to a poss WR with 75ish jumping. Seems like half the tackles on these dots are diving tackles. Most likely would end up as an epic fail

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4 times in 7 WL games for my returner

Originally posted by reddogrw
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4 times in 7 WL games for my returner

Nice

Special teams are another place where you tend to see a lot of diving tackles. How much Jumping do you have on that dot?

Also, hurdle can fire and add a bonus to tackle breaking even if the tackle is broken with a spin. The spin animation and text will display, hurdle will not. As a result, once you add other tackle breaking SAs, hurdle never seems to fire.

Originally posted by Time Trial
Also, hurdle can fire and add a bonus to tackle breaking even if the tackle is broken with a spin. The spin animation and text will display, hurdle will not. As a result, once you add other tackle breaking SAs, hurdle never seems to fire.

assumption or fact?

Originally posted by reddogrw
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4 times in 7 WL games for my returner

Not sure what to think about that tbh. 4 times in 7 games is very little return for the investment imo. I can't see the build but between the time spent training jumping, any additional SP added to it, the 35 BT to add hurdle, and the (aeq/ceq/sp) spent on pumping it to a usable level just seems like a lot for 4 avoided tackles.

That being said, I'd like to see it in action with ~ jumping for shits and giggles

Originally posted by JT_HOOD
assumption or fact?

I think that's fact. I think it also works the same way with power thru and spin. power thru text fires before spin does so it seems spin never fires on a lot of power backs with both.

It's like there's a preferred order of abilities firing. for break tackle, I'd have to guess PT, SPIN, Hurdle. If you have the other 2, hurdle may not be worth the investment (noted above regarding 4 hurdles in 7 games)

Originally posted by HOODjelly
I think that's fact. I think it also works the same way with power thru and spin. power thru text fires before spin does so it seems spin never fires on a lot of power backs with both.

It's like there's a preferred order of abilities firing. for break tackle, I'd have to guess PT, SPIN, Hurdle. If you have the other 2, hurdle may not be worth the investment (noted above regarding 4 hurdles in 7 games)

the way TT puts it, it sounds like it would be worth the investment since you can boost your break tackle score higher when adding hurdle then you could just with spin. At least that's how i took what he wrote.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2319977 this dot's break tackle ratio really hasn't changed this season from his previous. I swapped out the now worthless open field fake for Hurdle. I'd say the level of comp is probably the same coming from Pro to Cas pro to Whatever he's in now.

Originally posted by HOODjelly
I think that's fact. I think it also works the same way with power thru and spin. power thru text fires before spin does so it seems spin never fires on a lot of power backs with both.

It's like there's a preferred order of abilities firing. for break tackle, I'd have to guess PT, SPIN, Hurdle. If you have the other 2, hurdle may not be worth the investment (noted above regarding 4 hurdles in 7 games)

What would your settings be to maximize PT and Spin?

PT would seem to fire when the rush bar is towards power, Spin fires more when back is elusive.... This is an assumption..

Originally posted by JT_HOOD
assumption or fact?

Fact.

Originally posted by JT_HOOD
the way TT puts it, it sounds like it would be worth the investment since you can boost your break tackle score higher when adding hurdle then you could just with spin. At least that's how i took what he wrote.

Yes, adding it boosts the break tackle score.

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Answer

Couple things to note about Hurdle. ---Hurdle is the only SA that can trigger along with all of the other broken tackle SAs, and is also overwritten. If both Power Through and Hurdle fire at the same time, it only says Power Through even though you get both bonuses. ---A Hurdle can take place only on a very specific event (a diving tackle). ---Hurdle is much more effective with higher jumping and higher points in the SA.