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Originally posted by rawss

What if there was a chance for the ball to go out of bounds and the return team getting the ball at the 40?

Excellent point and this seems to be getting positive support, so I'll put up for a vote.

Originally posted by Norsemanvike
1) -100 to +100 distance slider for kick off distance, ranging between the opposing 30yrd line and the end of the EZ to protect against 'on-side' kicks.

2) -100 to +100 directional slider for kick off left/right. This would allow special teams to try and stack one side of the field to try and limit exceptional returners or pin the KR team deep.

EDIT: An excellent suggestion was made that if the the slider is used and the K boots the KO out of bounds, the receiving team starts at the 40yrd line to mirror NFL rules. This would allow some resistance and consequences against consistent coffin corner KOs.


wasnt the rule take ball on 40 or accept penalty and have KO been repeated with penalty marched back?

also more shanks.

Originally posted by rawss
Originally posted by Jaxon Voom

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This would just lead to every kickoff being to one side with the gunners stacked on that side causing more FF TD's. Just an option i don't think we need.
What if there was a chance for the ball to go out of bounds and the return team getting the ball at the 40?

That would be needed yeah. Just anything so that people couldn't kick to one side perfectly everytime. There has to be a punishment for it sometimes.

+1

I approved this change, but I would like for the -100 distance to be a higher kickoff and the +100 be more of a line drive kickoff. In addition, we should allow for an onside kick option when behind late in the game.

What is the return team's counter to this? Considering in peewee right now if you get a lucky roll and kick it to the sidelines you are taking 30 yards off the average starting field position no problem... I'd hate to see a way for this to be a consistent issue.

Heck the 40 yard line is MUCH better than the average starting position after a KR in peewee which is probably at least the 50 yard line....

-10,000

This would make peewee special teams absolutely lulzy

i think the nfl rule is 45 yard line

-1, for now.

I think we need to overhaul certain aspects of special teams before we add something like this. I wouldn't be against it in the future, but it'd be like the 8th step in a 10 step process to revamp special teams.

Originally posted by lacker
i think the nfl rule is 45 yard line

it is the 40 yard line... and even the 45 yard line wouldn't be a "risk" ... it would be a desired result...

I can promise you this would DESTROY peewee KR special teams...

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the idea is nice but without the return team being able to set up return direction i feel it will be exploitable with stacking high speed to one side and the return team would have no shot. If this was implemented it would need to be countered with a KR direction option that way if a team were to try and stack one side of the field with gunners and FF machines they would be able to be caught doing so if the return team were to be able set a return to the opposite side of the field.

Originally posted by Norsemanvike
1) -100 to +100 distance slider for kick off distance, ranging between the opposing 30yrd line and the end of the EZ to protect against 'on-side' kicks.

2) -100 to +100 directional slider for kick off left/right. This would allow special teams to try and stack one side of the field to try and limit exceptional returners or pin the KR team deep.

EDIT: An excellent suggestion was made that if the the slider is used and the K boots the KO out of bounds, the receiving team starts at the 40yrd line to mirror NFL rules. This would allow some resistance and consequences against consistent coffin corner KOs.


Or better yet, give us different formations and a choice as OC or STC... giving this decision to the Kicker doesn`t help unless the KRDefense is set up for what the kicker is going to do.

I think this could work, though it would be interesting how it would play out for pee wee players.... From the start of the season pee wee kickers typically kick between 45 and 50 yards, which is down around the 20-25 yard line; the typical return is between about 20 and 25 yards, which is right around the 40-45 yard line. Depending on how good the STC is, a good kick cover unit could keep returns around 15-20 yards; so a kick going out of bounds and coming out to the 40 might be worse for those teams. By having the -/+ distance/directional sliders this wouldn't guarantee a kick to the endzone or to the right/left it would just be what your kicker is trying to do, whether he does it or not would depend on how good his kicking and vision are; so a lot of kicks will typically go middle are between the middle and the direction he's kicking and some out of bounds. Maybe a slight boost to kicker distance would help make this more manageable, since most all NFL kickers can at least get it to the 1 or 5 yardline and the strongest kickers 5 or so deep into the endzone. I think you could allow an additional 5 or 10 yards of kick distance on pee wee players and then later in a kicker's career he would have to focus on more strength to allow him kicking deep into the endzone.

Distance slider would be good, but I'm not very big on directional sliders.

i think this is a great idea..i would also like to see a big reducion in force fumbles on KO and Punts...