Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Clarka3
no, it isn't unrealistic. Larry Izzo was a highly touted special teamer for the... Patriots in the past years. I don't think I saw him on the field at all aside from special teams while he was a patriot.

Rocky Boiman
Kyris Hebert
Kevin Hauser
Steve Tasker
Bryan Kehl
Brad St. Louis
Clark Harris
Nick Novak



all special teamers. there are more for sure, but I don't know them off the top of my head.

Tim Tindale of the Bills was a good one too

Originally posted by TruthHammer
I'll give you that most long snappers are STOPS, but every other non-kicking, non-returning position on special teams is held by depth guys whose core competency is playing a position on O or D.

The invention of the STOP archetype is the single most unrealistic aspect of GLB.

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LOL, i'd say there is EASILY 10 more aspects that are unrealistic in this GLB, a lowly STOP arche is not even close to it!

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Nobody get's better SAs until LBs get better SAs.

Originally posted by Clarka3
no, it isn't unrealistic. Larry Izzo was a highly touted special teamer for the... Patriots in the past years. I don't think I saw him on the field at all aside from special teams while he was a patriot.

Rocky Boiman
Kyris Hebert
Kevin Hauser
Steve Tasker
Bryan Kehl
Brad St. Louis
Clark Harris
Nick Novak



all special teamers. there are more for sure, but I don't know them off the top of my head.

There are always exceptions, but no team has 6 guys that specialize in special teams. Even some of the guys you listed would't qualify.

Rocky Boiman is a linebacker.
Kyris Hebert is a safety.
Kevin Hauser is a long snapper, the only true non-kicking, non-returning STOP position in the NFL.
Steve Tasker is an anomoly, the greatest special teams player of all time. There has not been another player who specialized at gunner before or since.
Really, you added Bryan Kehl to your list? Who would draft a guy in the fourth round if they only wanted them to play special teams? Dude is a linebacker.
Brad St. Louis is another long snapper.
Clark Harris, another long snapper. How many long snappers do you think the average NFL team has on its roster?
Nick Novak is a kicker.
Heath Farwell is a linebacker.

You can't just name every second or third stringer who has ever played only special teams in the NFL and call them a STOP. They play those positions because they are capable of playing them and because they add depth at other positions, not because that is they are special teams specialists.

Alex Bannister, pure gunner, had a number in the 80s cuz he was skinny, but only ever took emergency snaps at WR which was akin to Ocho Cinco kicking FGs.

i did screw up on Novak, didn't I. oh well.


they might be listed on the rosters as another position, but if they only played STs, then they are STOPs.

Originally posted by The Avenger
Tim Tindale of the Bills was a good one too

Tim Tindale was a running back.

Originally posted by Clarka3
i did screw up on Novak, didn't I. oh well.


they might be listed on the rosters as another position, but if they only played STs, then they are STOPs.

OK, take a third string LB who plays special teams only. He's a STOP. Now what if you pulled him, and let the starting LB play that role for a game. The starter would be better at it 99 times out of 100. Therefore the third stringer is not a STOP specialist, but a guy who translates his LB talents to special teams.

Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
Alex Bannister, pure gunner, had a number in the 80s cuz he was skinny, but only ever took emergency snaps at WR which was akin to Ocho Cinco kicking FGs.

You can spend all day finding exceptions I'm sure. But you're not going to find a team with 6 guys built to specialize in STs the way you do in GLB.

Heath is a special teams specialist, your crazy if you think we have him on the team for his LB abilities

Originally posted by vike fan 4 life
Heath is a special teams specialist, your crazy if you think we have him on the team for his LB abilities

Fine I'll give it to you. Got 5 more just like him?

I'd say onatolu,and loeffler would be STOP's. So thats 3, which is exactly how many my casual pro team has. I dont know why a team would have 6 STOP's. You'd lose to much depth on your team for more important positions

Originally posted by vike fan 4 life
I'd say onatolu,and loeffler would be STOP's. So thats 3, which is exactly how many my casual pro team has. I dont know why a team would have 6 STOP's. You'd lose to much depth on your team for more important positions

Loeffler is a long snapper, which I already said is the only true STOP on most teams. As for Onatolu...
Originally posted by TruthHammer
OK, take a third string LB who plays special teams only. He's a STOP. Now what if you pulled him, and let the starting LB play that role for a game. The starter would be better at it 99 times out of 100. Therefore the third stringer is not a STOP specialist, but a guy who translates his LB talents to special teams.

uhhhh wats the difference, hes still playing special teams only, the fact that he could play lb is irrelevant. If you put a GLB stop on an actual defense, they would not be like some CPU. A well built stop would be able to perform on a GLB D, just not as well as the starters....just like in the nfl

also back to my farwell arguement, onatolu wouldn't be on the team if it wasen't for his specail teams ability, not his lb ability