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HULK
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Hi,

There is a lot of good info in the position talk forums. There is also a lot of terrible advice and bad info. Unfortunately, in today's day and age, some people like to express strong opinions and act like an authority on a topic when they have no idea whatsoever, and zero experience on that topic.

So how can you tell the good from the bad? Simple. You can click on the posters name and go to his page. If he's giving advice about Hard Hitting Strong Safeties, and he doesn't have a Safety and never did (check retired players tab for that), then he doesn't know what he's talking about. If he does have one, and that dots effective level is lower than his actual level, then again, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

These quick and simple checks can prevent you from taking bad advice.

Good luck.
Edited by HULK on Aug 11, 2010 05:17:39
 
Underdawg08
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A lot of your retired players have lower effective levels than their level ...
 
naraic
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A lot of times I give advice when I don't have a relevent player but I always try to give reasons and make sense.

If someone gives advice without explaining it I'd trust it a lot less that someone who explains their advice.
 
TheGreatAus
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How does not building a player mean you dont have insight? Being on teams and seeing how other players build and seeing successful players gives a lot of insight.
 
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Originally posted by naraic
A lot of times I give advice when I don't have a relevent player but I always try to give reasons and make sense.

If someone gives advice without explaining it I'd trust it a lot less that someone who explains their advice.


That is way more important than whether or not you've built a dot of the same kind. A logical statement is a logical statement no matter who's mouth it's coming out of. (there are exceptions where the game is not logical so you have to give some weight to guys who've watched the dots on the field.)

But yeah, a guy with a bunch of non boosters and peewees will probably give worse advice than a guy with WL dots and a pile of coordinator gold.
 
Djinnt
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Best thing you can do as a player is not seek advice, but use trial and error.
You won't really know what works or doesn't before you actually see it happen for your own player.

Even better, owning a team or being a relevant coordinator will give you lots of insight because you will know exactly how your player can and will be used.
When I say "relevant coordinator", I mean that being a DC won't help you understand WRs as much as being an OC will
 
Underdawg08
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Originally posted by Djinnt
Best thing you can do as a player is not seek advice, but use trial and error.
You won't really know what works or doesn't before you actually see it happen for your own player.

Even better, owning a team or being a relevant coordinator will give you lots of insight because you will know exactly how your player can and will be used.
When I say "relevant coordinator", I mean that being a DC won't help you understand WRs as much as being an OC will


best advice ever.
 
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Originally posted by HULK
Hi,

There is a lot of good info in the position talk forums. There is also a lot of terrible advice and bad info. Unfortunately, in today's day and age, some people like to express strong opinions and act like an authority on a topic when they have no idea whatsoever, and zero experience on that topic.

So how can you tell the good from the bad? Simple. You can click on the posters name and go to his page. If he's giving advice about Hard Hitting Strong Safeties, and he doesn't have a Safety and never did (check retired players tab for that), then he doesn't know what he's talking about. If he does have one, and that dots effective level is lower than his actual level, then again, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

These quick and simple checks can prevent you from taking bad advice.

Good luck.



Originally posted by Underdawg08


best advice ever.


 
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Originally posted by Djinnt
Best thing you can do as a player is not seek advice, but use trial and error.
You won't really know what works or doesn't before you actually see it happen for your own player.

Even better, owning a team or being a relevant coordinator will give you lots of insight because you will know exactly how your player can and will be used.
When I say "relevant coordinator", I mean that being a DC won't help you understand WRs as much as being an OC will


Yeah, I'll buy what your selling here for the most part. But have you seen some of the builds out there on the marketplace? I'm not trying to pretend I am an elite dot builder by any means, but I see guys who have been playing the game for years that don't really seem to grasp the concept of slowbuilding or ALG's at all. New players need help in a game like this otherwise they quit after figuring out that their dot sucks 6 months and 50$ later.

~50% of the rate my player threads go unanswered. Your lucky to have 2 or 3 guys comment on any thread in most of the position talk forums. I can't fault someone for doing their best to help someone else get better at this game, as long as their intentions are in the right place. I think we need more of the top players in the game reaching out to help the noobs. It seems like information is something to be horded rather than shared on this game.

tldr
Hulk is right check to see who the person is giving you advice.
More good players should be giving advice IMHO.
Edited by dc_txtech on Aug 11, 2010 19:20:39
 
idm03
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Looking at opposing builds can give you good ideas. Before building my CB, I looked at WR builds to figure out what it takes to keep up and possiblites for setting up advantages.

The best advice that can be given is to dissect replays with a critical eye to get an appreciation for indiviual attributes.
 
HULK
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Let me add, that a person without a relevant dot is capable of giving good advice... I'm not saying their not. But I see plenty of terrible advice, and it rarely comes from people who have built that exact type of dot before.

I try to chime in occasionally in the few forums where I feel I know enough to offer advice... I wish more old vets like myself did the same. A few are really good about it, and others that I know have no presence whatsoever in these position forums.
 
Djinnt
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Originally posted by idm03
Looking at opposing builds can give you good ideas. Before building my CB, I looked at WR builds to figure out what it takes to keep up and possiblites for setting up advantages.

The best advice that can be given is to dissect replays with a critical eye to get an appreciation for indiviual attributes.


good point. you could even try building the dot that would play opposite of the one you want to make
like if you want to make a HB, you should probably understand LBs, DEs, CBs and safeties pretty well first, otherwise you won't know what stats are ideal to beat them the majority of the time.
 
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My dawts suck. Don't listen to me gaiz.
 
Underdawg08
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Originally posted by Homage
My dawts suck. Don't listen to me gaiz.


Your dawts are da werst evar. I sware.
 
Underdawg08
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Look at tautology a few posts up talking about how he knows everything, about everything, calls the advice forum full of scrubs, then asks for advice for his level 66 D.E. in the Defensive line PT forum. LAWLS

 
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