Warrior General Games

Originally posted by peteyskugog
I have a DE with Super Vision as a AEQ ability.
If I select an archetype and choose Super Vision as the ability - What happens, just that I can pound more points into it? But it would follow the 1-1-2-2-3 points cost?

Yes, it uses the same 1-1-2-2-3-3-4-4-5-5 progression. The cost to increase is based off the base of the SA, without any equipment factored in.

is the change to how many plays will be needed for max experience coming?

3) Swap it for 25 "refund tokens" which will let you shop for new pieces of AEQ. Choosing this option will also give you a full cash/bonus token refund. If you buy a piece of AEQ using refund tokens you will have 5 refund tokens deducted from your refund token account.
Originally posted by flynn
i simply disagree with you
i got great pieces of equipment for my trade ins
i also too the gamble and it payed off
i feel like it was explained to clearly be a gamble
you get extra shopping tokens, thats all
and if you buy things from the shop you spend some of them as well to use them up faster
you dont go to some special pro shop or some special position shop
its the same shop
you already know what buying things from that shop is like
you simply didn't take the time to consider what you were doing before doing it
the explanation was perfectly clear not only to me, but in the forums on my team most of my agents have been discussing the different options and none of them has ever expressed confusion about how this works

what i have found though, is that sometimes i have to read the announcements twice to make sure i get everything out of them
sometimes as players we read the first part of the announcement, get excited about what it says, and skim the rest without really paying attention so we can go back and play with the first change ASAP
are you sure this isnt what happened to you?
you might have read the announcement about the whole thing and said to yourself "25 shopping tokens!!! thats like a wonderful bounty that will last me forever!!!"
and then didn't read the rest of the announcement about how you lose 5 if you buy a piece or about how its THE EXACT SAME SHOP

but seriously, this is a concern for you, not for the forums
its a personal problem, you screwed yourself over, the rest of us who actually read the rules dont need to listen to your whining

Thank you for your thoughts. I appreciate what you are trying to say, especially if it is directed toward those who didn't read the announcement twice. However as I have 20/20 vision and am able to comprehend quite clearly what the message says perhaps it is you that have misread or misunderstood mine. The announcement "... 3) Swap it for 25 "refund tokens" which will let you shop for new pieces of AEQ. Choosing this option will also give you a full cash/bonus token refund. If you buy a piece of AEQ using refund tokens you will have 5 refund tokens deducted from your refund token account."

I'm not denying it, your right, I did get screwed on the swap. But what if your swaps aren't nearly as effective as what you traded for. You won't even know till ya play in em. Humor me though. If you where exchanging merchandise you bought at a store, regardless of how many options of reimbursement there were, you would feel somewhat disappointed or frustrated if the option you chose which was made available to you, was not commensurate to what you gave to the store, especially if you wanted football eq to play in. Getting your money back wouldn't help you on the field. What I was drawing attention to was in agreement with something you said, Choosing OPTION C "is a gamble." And the question I was actually raising to be more clear is, Why even include an option like this one, OPTION C , if it doesn't effectively address a particular need amidst all of the new changes? I didn't realize I could take a gamble by choosing a recommended option. Normally gambling requires one to go outside of a given standard or rule to take a risk, yet the risk here is actually built into the standard. But in the words of Moderator Pottsman, I choose C, "despite there being another safe option". I guess the odds are 25/1 plus whatever the house (the store) is bringing on OPTION C. With the bold type and clarification everywhere else, I just wish it was more clear I was taking a risk. -I'm done. I rest my case. No more out of me on this. I promise.

And flynn, "whining"? ...... never mind. I'm a nice person. Besides that's what PM's are for, this being a forum and all

all i was asking for was more than 2 exchanges because i bought more than two. i think that's fair. you can set the cap of 50 refund tokens or whatever, but allow me to change out what i now consider dead weight.

Originally posted by cosmoxl
is the change to how many plays will be needed for max experience coming?

Yes, half as many plays are needed now.
Originally posted by blitzboy
all i was asking for was more than 2 exchanges because i bought more than two. i think that's fair. you can set the cap of 50 refund tokens or whatever, but allow me to change out what i now consider dead weight.

You can only exchange two because no player can realistically keep more than 3 pieces of AE upgraded, and 1 piece of AE will be unaffected, this in a worst case situation, you has 2 peices nerfed and need to sell. Your players with more than 2 were clearly stockpiling AE, which means they weren't actually hurt from the change.

I have most some of the archetyp disscusions and wonder what is the penelty for the diffrent SAs and how long do I have too choose a archetyp for my LV 28 players befor I cant do it anymoore and what is the bonus for the SAs.

Catch 22 - I have a receiver whom I have to choose an archtype for. I want to put him into the speedster archtype, b/c he's best built for that archtype, but I had previously bought AEQ with the route runner and sticky hands SA's (to help round out his build). These get penalized for the speedster archtype.

If I choose a archtype, will I be able to trade in or exchange my current AEQ (at least the ones w/penalized SA's) for AEQ that better fits my desired archtype?

Originally posted by muffsniff
I have most some of the archetyp disscusions and wonder what is the penelty for the diffrent SAs and how long do I have too choose a archetyp for my LV 28 players befor I cant do it anymoore and what is the bonus for the SAs.

The penalties and bonuses are an unknown number, but they subtract/add (example, fake number) 10% to the effectiveness of that SA, making it behave 10% better or worse.
You have until the end of the Preseason, Day 0, to pick an archetype.

Originally posted by trueblue@nyc
Catch 22 - I have a receiver whom I have to choose an archtype for. I want to put him into the speedster archtype, b/c he's best built for that archtype, but I had previously bought AEQ with the route runner and sticky hands SA's (to help round out his build). These get penalized for the speedster archtype.

If I choose a archtype, will I be able to trade in or exchange my current AEQ (at least the ones w/penalized SA's) for AEQ that better fits my desired archtype?

No. Your AEs will still work, just not as well as before, and that is an unfortuneate side effect which there are no plans to fix.

Originally posted by pottsman
Originally posted by muffsniff

I have most some of the archetyp disscusions and wonder what is the penelty for the diffrent SAs and how long do I have too choose a archetyp for my LV 28 players befor I cant do it anymoore and what is the bonus for the SAs.

The penalties and bonuses are an unknown number, but they subtract/add (example, fake number) 10% to the effectiveness of that SA, making it behave 10% better or worse.
You have until the end of the Preseason, Day 0, to pick an archetype.

Originally posted by trueblue@nyc

Catch 22 - I have a receiver whom I have to choose an archtype for. I want to put him into the speedster archtype, b/c he's best built for that archtype, but I had previously bought AEQ with the route runner and sticky hands SA's (to help round out his build). These get penalized for the speedster archtype.

If I choose a archtype, will I be able to trade in or exchange my current AEQ (at least the ones w/penalized SA's) for AEQ that better fits my desired archtype?

No. Your AEs will still work, just not as well as before, and that is an unfortuneate side effect which there are no plans to fix.

That sucks, this more or less forces me to choose another archtype, which may not best suit my player.

Originally posted by trueblue@nyc
Originally posted by pottsman

Originally posted by muffsniff


I have most some of the archetyp disscusions and wonder what is the penelty for the diffrent SAs and how long do I have too choose a archetyp for my LV 28 players befor I cant do it anymoore and what is the bonus for the SAs.

The penalties and bonuses are an unknown number, but they subtract/add (example, fake number) 10% to the effectiveness of that SA, making it behave 10% better or worse.
You have until the end of the Preseason, Day 0, to pick an archetype.

Originally posted by trueblue@nyc


Catch 22 - I have a receiver whom I have to choose an archtype for. I want to put him into the speedster archtype, b/c he's best built for that archtype, but I had previously bought AEQ with the route runner and sticky hands SA's (to help round out his build). These get penalized for the speedster archtype.

If I choose a archtype, will I be able to trade in or exchange my current AEQ (at least the ones w/penalized SA's) for AEQ that better fits my desired archtype?

No. Your AEs will still work, just not as well as before, and that is an unfortuneate side effect which there are no plans to fix.

That sucks, this more or less forces me to choose another archtype, which may not best suit my player.


This is what ticks me off most about GLB. "Oh we changed something and now the build that you have that was good and well planned out, yeah its crap now. What you expect some sort of reset? Why? You should have known we would make a change that would completely screw your player. Not our problem that our change to the game means you have to start over. You could always start a new character" (sound of the GLB flex mill grinding away you $$$$).

Originally posted by David Stern
Here is why it is silly
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1372114
My fs had a piece, I realized I got screwed, and it would cost my team like 400k more. I got mad, then looked and saw we had 55 million, so I fixed it, got my piece, problem solved....


What about every kid playing on every poor team who can't just pm the owner and get $$$$ for a swap? This should be free so the avg user shouldn't have to pay BT. Free swaps when you change how equipment works. Not really asking for a lot. 0 risk, high reward for GLB.

Why did this get ingnored even when quoted by another member?
An answer to this would be nice since his point is valid. O_o

Originally posted by Team Nucleus
Why did this get ingnored even when quoted by another member?
An answer to this would be nice since his point is valid. o_O

What he said!

Originally posted by Team Nucleus
Originally posted by David Stern

Here is why it is silly
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1372114
My fs had a piece, I realized I got screwed, and it would cost my team like 400k more. I got mad, then looked and saw we had 55 million, so I fixed it, got my piece, problem solved....


What about every kid playing on every poor team who can't just pm the owner and get $$$$ for a swap? This should be free so the avg user shouldn't have to pay BT. Free swaps when you change how equipment works. Not really asking for a lot. 0 risk, high reward for GLB.

Why did this get ingnored even when quoted by another member?
An answer to this would be nice since his point is valid. o_O

Because his point was addressed in multiple other threads and by multiple posts. There was a fully free option to convert % AE to equivalent non-% pieces, which was again, fully and completely free, and there was an option to get 25 shopping tokens. Shopping tokens which would take you to the same exact AE store that we've all known and hated for 10 seasons now. He chose the tokens, and had to pay extra to convert an AE from one slot to another, and that was his choice to do, GLB didn't force him to use the store, there was a second equally viable option.

NM

is there information on how the ALGs of the new archtypes decrease as the dot ages?