Warrior General Games

Originally posted by taurran
I have 0 faith in anyone with an Administrator, Moderator, or Tester title under their name. All of them are completely blinded and disconnected from the player base to make decisions that affect the entire player base.

This game seems to be "balanced" by a bunch of monkeys pounding randomly on keyboards.

BINGO...

These guys are fixing the game. There's going to be some discomfort while the glove is in there, but I assure you that you will feel much better once it has done its job and has been removed.

Honestly, this is the perfect time to be starting the game. SSB is done, there will be far fewer players who will have extreme advantages using a cap-building system, teams at the lowest level will have plenty of new players to recruit.

This is the GLB baby-boom generation. I forsee that in the ten seasons that it takes for these players to get to their end of life that this game will be fairly stable and that it will all stem from major changes that we are experiencing today.

Just don't break Pee Wee again or I will ragequit so fast it will make your head spin.

Originally posted by Time Trial
These guys are fixing the game. There's going to be some discomfort while the glove is in there, but I assure you that you will feel much better once it has done its job and has been removed.

Honestly, this is the perfect time to be starting the game. SSB is done, there will be far fewer players who will have extreme advantages using a cap-building system, teams at the lowest level will have plenty of new players to recruit.

This is the GLB baby-boom generation. I forsee that in the ten seasons that it takes for these players to get to their end of life that this game will be fairly stable and that it will all stem from major changes that we are experiencing today.

Just don't break Pee Wee again or I will ragequit so fast it will make your head spin.

The problem is they have been fixing the game for 14 seasons and the glove keeps getting bigger and more uncomfortable.

Originally posted by AngryDragon
The problem is they have been fixing the game for 14 seasons and the glove keeps getting bigger and more uncomfortable.

I highlighted the operative word.

Fixing- to influence the result or action of (a horse race, jury, election, GLB etc.) to one's advantage by bribery, trickery, etc.

Originally posted by DONKEIDIC
Originally posted by AngryDragon

The problem is they have been fixing the game for 14 seasons and the glove keeps getting bigger and more uncomfortable.

I highlighted the operative word.

Fixing- to influence the result or action of (a horse race, jury, election, GLB etc.) to one's advantage by bribery, trickery, etc.

LOL one of 36 definitions of the word at dictionary.com

The game is being changed to be more fair, not less fair. You just need to stop taking a narrow-minded and short-term view of the changes. Eventually, everyone will be on the same page here.

Originally posted by Time Trial
LOL one of 36 definitions of the word at dictionary.com

The game is being changed to be more fair, not less fair. You just need to stop taking a narrow-minded and short-term view of the changes. Eventually, everyone will be on the same page here.



History has shown this to be the prelude to worse conditions more often than, actually fulfilling the promise. It is an easy way to say bend over and actually get people to bend over.

EDIT: Nothing good comes from bending over by the way.

Originally posted by AngryDragon
Originally posted by Time Trial

LOL one of 36 definitions of the word at dictionary.com

The game is being changed to be more fair, not less fair. You just need to stop taking a narrow-minded and short-term view of the changes. Eventually, everyone will be on the same page here.



History has shown this to be the prelude to worse conditions more often than, actually fulfilling the promise. It is an easy way to say bend over and actually get people to bend over.

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Well, opening my wallet is the equivalent of bending over in this game, but I seem to do it every season to the tune of $100.00. If I didn't think that things were going to get better, I wouldn't keep playing. I'm actually pretty happy with the game, and happy with the changes. I know a lot of people aren't, but the game is more friendly to people just starting than it was before (d-leagues vs. Pee Wees or Cap 4)... I don't know. I guess I'm being optimistic and I'm happy with Catch's ideas and am willing to let him run with things for a bit.

On the flip side, half of my money is spent on Pee Wee and the other half on level 20-65 dots... so if Catch's focus continues to be only on fixing the sim portion at the highest level only half of my dots are going to see the value. We've seen some pretty negative effects to high level nerfs ripple through the game, and the passing game still hasn't really recovered in the level 14-36 tiers...

I'm hoping that once things settle down a bit that they will look at balancing the sim a bit more through the entire league, or at least not making the changes so chaotic that builds at the lowest level roller-coaster through the changes so much.

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I am never opposed to change, it's just unthoughout change that sucks...

Look, it's like saying a player that has 80 strength can go and get Jack Hammer, and make any player fumble.... even though they may only have 25in tackling.... that's idiotic... you have to learn to tackle, to be an effective tackler....

One day, they will see the light, and make a tiered VA and SA system, that is built on a building block schedule that takes att level, SA level, and VA level into account.... until then, we will be plagued with numerous "fixes" that dont fix a dang thing in this game....

Building block and tiers is the only way to make it actually workable and create the seperation of builds for the game.

If they aren't on board with that, then just make the players they want for the game, and we can go into the store and buy the players for our account.... because I am tired of wasting my time with this crock of crap, "we're doing this to make the game better". It has nothing to do with making the game better.....

If they did, they would take the time to actually build the system that would work best for the game....

Originally posted by Time Trial
LOL one of 36 definitions of the word at dictionary.com

The game is being changed to be more fair, not less fair. You just need to stop taking a narrow-minded and short-term view of the changes. Eventually, everyone will be on the same page here.



Narrow minded short term view?

It is now 277 regular season days, and $64 after I planned this build. That is neither narrow minded, nor a short term view.

Answer this truthfully and I'll stop.

If I randomly add 30 sp to most players builds that are older than 210 days, and not yours, would you be okay with that, even though you were going to get your 30 SP "guaranteed" the very next season?

Originally posted by DONKEIDIC
Originally posted by Time Trial

LOL one of 36 definitions of the word at dictionary.com

The game is being changed to be more fair, not less fair. You just need to stop taking a narrow-minded and short-term view of the changes. Eventually, everyone will be on the same page here.



Narrow minded short term view?

It is now 277 regular season days, and $64 after I planned this build. That is neither narrow minded, nor a short term view.

Answer this truthfully and I'll stop.

If I randomly add 30 sp to most players builds that are older than 210 days, and not yours, would you be okay with that, even though you were going to get your 30 SP "guaranteed" the very next season?



Obviously not. If I thought that was the case, I'd be furious. But what you are talking about is very different than giving some people 30 SP to work with and others not. For one, the VA version of your ability will be better than the SA version, so they aren't getting 30 SP they are getting something worth MORE than 30 SP at the cost of 15 VP. This isn't such a big issue because:

a) you can now use those 15 VP on something else.
b) you are not forced to put thirty SP into that SA
c) I believe that there are much better uses of both 15 VP and 30 SP at your level.
d) By the time your player is ready for the really important games, you will be playing against mostly other players who are in the same position as you: SA choice only.

So if you refer back to my earlier post, I believe that the fairest way was to choose a date X where all players with players made after that day would be allowed to keep their VAs and everyone built on or before day X would be forced to reset.

The way they've done it now is not going to be a problem. Of course, I HAVE 15 points in Jackhammer, Scat Back, and Zone Specialist... but my players with those VAs are all so high of a level that you aren't going to be seeing them in any game that matters until they are deep in the decline and it would be unfair to take them away from me because my players are so old that they aren't going to be earning 30 SPs between now and when they are in decline.

Anyway, I'm going to get my mop trimmed and then I'm going drinking, so I hope that this settles things for you.

Edit: The season 16 cutoff is a big step in the right direction. However I'd still restrict archetypes from players with these VA's.

Originally posted by AngryDragon
It reminds me of the percent AE scam. I bet all the testers and their buddies loaded up on percent AE then said ready. Then Catch made the announcement and said no AE bought after this announcement can be redeemed.

They wouldn't do that... no really they wouldn't... well okay it does sound likely.

Originally posted by peteyskugog
They wouldn't do that... no really they wouldn't... well okay it does sound likely.

Actually I went through every tester to make sure they didn't buy any +% AEQ from the time it was decided on the test server and announced on the live server (less than 24 hours). No one did.

/conspiracytheory

Originally posted by Catch22
Actually I went through every tester to make sure they didn't buy any +% AEQ from the time it was decided on the test server and announced on the live server (less than 24 hours). No one did.

/conspiracytheory

That doesn't end it Catch, you know better, all it does is include you in on it according to these nutjobs.