Warrior General Games

Originally posted by PatPatriot
thats not a pure blocking WR

Then wtf is it? An ordinary receiver with godlike blocking abilities?

This is a stupid debate btw, never raise minor/other skills before a major if you're going to utilize the major in question.
Missing out on SP total over a career will never make you better at any goal.

I was thinking about doing this. My plan would be a 1st season slow build. I would intense train Strength and Blocking to 30, then focus on Speed-Agility until they soft cap, saving my SP's for the 2nd season.

Remember that for the first few seasons, the focus is mainly on the running game, so a WR with some strength and blocking will help more than one with speed/agility. Plus CB's will probably have low strength and no blocking, so you won't need to raise those much higher than 30 the first couple of season. Also, with a decently high strength, your WR will be able to break a few tackles and be a better short yardage possession receiver.

I do not believe you will handicap your WR at later levels doing this because you would slow build the 1st season and thus it would bring you to around the same level as a normal, non-slow built WR at later levels, plus you will help your team more on runs as you can block better. As long as your goal is a possession WR what will run over weak CB's, I think this would work.

i wouldnt do that unless you really, really prioritize peewee performance

you'd be level 16 by the time you trained str/block to 30

The point is to bring your blocking skills up early because you really wont use your receiving skills until later seasons, but you can use your blocking skills the first couple seasons when rushing is more effective than passing. Not sure exactly how you would do this. But I think you are correct that just intense training your two blocking skills up to 30+ would probably take too long. But you get my general point.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=166048

why not pm him hes got 100 pancakes and 4 drops.....

Check out my WR:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=792946&playoffs=0


I don't remember how I built him, but he gets a good amount of pancakes, and generally produces well in the passing game (IMO, x-factor.. but I'll take it)

67% completion rate not really a possession WR but pretty solid for the level.

Originally posted by Gerr
Remember that for the first few seasons, the focus is mainly on the running game, so a WR with some strength and blocking will help more than one with speed/agility. Plus CB's will probably have low strength and no blocking, so you won't need to raise those much higher than 30 the first couple of season. Also, with a decently high strength, your WR will be able to break a few tackles and be a better short yardage possession receiver.

I do not believe you will handicap your WR at later levels doing this because you would slow build the 1st season and thus it would bring you to around the same level as a normal, non-slow built WR at later levels, plus you will help your team more on runs as you can block better.

Ever heard of shed block?
You don't need the SA to shed a block.
Defensive players with higher agility will swim around blockers; a block is never engaged, thus no amount of blocking or strength will help you if you can never get close enough to the player. A CB in a 13 cap league will typically have first if not second capped agility. You will rarely see your blocking WR, who sacrificed all of his automatic leveling for nothing, engaging a block. On the rare event that he does, a FS, SS, and likely 2 of the 3 LBs will still be there to tackle your rusher. All you've done is make your WR completely useless and the team facing you can easily scout bars and place their crappiest level 9 CB against you the whole game because they know he won't let up any yards.

If that wasn't enough the second paragraph quoted is just incorrect. Slow building will not make up for points lost to majors. The entire premise of slow building is training your majors up early so you can cap them earlier in your level progression and benefit from an increased amount of automatic level gains to them.


You can make your strength/blocking WR idea work, but you have to raise majors first, minors second, then other skills for best SP value in the long run.

WRs:
Major Skills – Speed, Agility, Jumping, Stamina, Vision, Catching
Minor Skills – Confidence, Carrying
Other Skills – Strength, Blocking, Tackling, Throwing, Kicking, Punting


Of the major skills, these are useful to blocking: Speed, agility, stamina, vision
Minors: Confidence
Other: Strength, blocking

Therefor the best training pattern for a -blocking- WR would be:
Speed/Stamina
Stamina/Agility
Agility/Vision
Vision/Confidence
Finish up anything that isn't in the desired range with normal training
Strength/Blocking

Originally posted by Djinnt
This is a stupid debate btw, never raise minor/other skills before a major if you're going to utilize the major in question.
Missing out on SP total over a career will never make you better at any goal.

The only interesting thing would be to start out a receiver training confidence/carrying (since they get higher level gains for their secondary than their primaries) and 1st cap both of those early. Then they could get to say 60 carrying/55 confidence at higher levels without ever spending a point above the 1st cap.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
The only interesting thing would be to start out a receiver training confidence/carrying (since they get higher level gains for their secondary than their primaries) and 1st cap both of those early. Then they could get to say 60 carrying/55 confidence at higher levels without ever spending a point above the 1st cap.

Thats a very good point actually...

TE's WR's never block.

Step 1: Build a normal receiver without getting speed and agility to super-high ridiculous levels.
Step 2: Soft cap strength and blocking.
Step 3: Outside Blocker

Viola! Blocking/Possession Receiver.

You don't need to go crazy w/ the Strength and Blocking. You just need a little extra Strength than the usual CB/FS
My WR is a good blocker for his level, hes always holding up the CB on Pitches.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1068696&pbp_id=8851636