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Cuivienen
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My pride has been wounded! Oh no!!!




Lol...
 
Meech
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Blevstone, the admins are the only ones that can force those changes, so again, it doesn't make it wrong. I stopped taking him seriously when he resorted to calling people morons.
 
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Originally posted by blevstone
Originally posted by Meech

Originally posted by Cuivienen


Originally posted by Meech



Sure you can, it ahs been done a bunch this season already.



Sorry, didn't realise I had to state the obvious:

That doesn't make it right.


Doesn't make it wrong either. I know you are so much smarter than the rest of us, so we may as well bow to your wisdom.


If it's against the way the admins want things to run...then yes, it does make it wrong. Apparently you can't come up with a reasonable argument so you have to try to insult him with sarcasm.....nice work.


what part of "beta" do you not grasp?

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Hagetaka
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This game is 70 days old.

I repeat- SEVENTY DAYS OLD.

Have some patience, folks. The leagues will balance out. Adam Smith's invisible hand will guide everything into their place and hopefully spank the bottoms of the worst agitators
 
blevstone
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Originally posted by Meech
Blevstone, the admins are the only ones that can force those changes, so again, it doesn't make it wrong. I stopped taking him seriously when he resorted to calling people morons.


Well...if you look back, someone else started it by calling what he said "moronic" so if you're going to stop taking him seriously because he called that post moronic then you're the one we should be ignoring. Responding with childish sarcasm is hardly rising above sending out insults so you're not quite as high as you might think.

And while the admins may do changes like that...it's not necessarily because that's the way they want things to be, they do it to keep customers happy which is what they should do...but if way too many people start requesting it they'll likely just put a stop to it. The game being in beta is an argument to be patient, not to try to force a team higher or lower because they think they should be there.

Like Hagetaka said, just be patient and let the game work itself out.
 
cookepa
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If you are in the AAA or AA team, and really want to move up, internalize the cost of moving up. Pay a team you think should move down to do so, or win your league. Or give them players for nothing. Do something other than file a post and start complaining, saying how you should be up and someone else should be down. I'm a GM on the Heroes, and frankly, we probably should have been at a lower league earlier in the year. And our owner tried to get us in one. And it couldn't be done, so we lived with it, won three games, and now have the right to stay in the pro league.

Also, please don't make the Heroes the poster child of who should move up and down. We won the game prior to today's 61-3. That team may be moving down also, but you can't convince me that we really don't belong if we're 58 points better than the team only a couple places below us, and the team at the top of the tougher conference is 35 points better than us.

Please feel free to rip this post apart. Just know that, when you try to do this, I actually am smarter than you, so whatever you say is wrong, and I'm right.

Kidding?
 
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I say we should move down, it seems like AAA are having more fun over there
 
Cuivienen
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cookepa +1

BTW, I think everyone from Pro should be put into Z. The promotees from AAA are topping both conferences, so we obviously don't deserve to be here.



Originally posted by Meech
he resorted to calling people morons.


Apparently...
 
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Essentially the whole idea here is that the AAA teams are impatient and want everything to be spoonfed to them, while they screw over anyone and anything that doesn't help them. The game is very new, the whole idea to the game is that OVER TIME leagues will balance out.
 
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I don't think the AAA teams are impatient. I have no idea why you would think they want something spoon-fed to them. The top teams have had back to back winning seasons, while most of the teams at the bottom of the food-chain in the pro league have had back to back losing seasons. I also don't know how it is screwing anyone to move down. Go read this thread: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=283334
Staying in a league where you can't make the playoffs will hurt the weaker teams financially. I agree that it will eventually balance itself out, but it is a worthy topic of discussion.
 
blevstone
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Originally posted by TBRaiders
I don't think the AAA teams are impatient. I have no idea why you would think they want something spoon-fed to them. The top teams have had back to back winning seasons, while most of the teams at the bottom of the food-chain in the pro league have had back to back losing seasons. I also don't know how it is screwing anyone to move down. Go read this thread: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=283334
Staying in a league where you can't make the playoffs will hurt the weaker teams financially. I agree that it will eventually balance itself out, but it is a worthy topic of discussion.


Actually...I believe the definition of being impatient is to want something sooner than you're going to get it....which is EXACTLY what these teams in AAA want right now hence this thread even existing. Teams in the Pro League have the right to stay there unless they are so poor that they end up getting demoted to the AAA league because they finish at the bottom of the league...simple as that.
 
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i may be drunk right now (fact: i am), but fuck this thread. this game is designed to even itself out. over time. so shut the hell up, immediately.

Additionally, if being in the Pro league doesn't mean shit to you, you wouldn't care enough to make this thread. OH I WANT TOUGHER COMPETITION, ETC. no, shut up. stop lying and die. bye.
 
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There are quite a few teams in the Pro's that were PURCHASED this season. They didn't fight their way up through the ranks etc, they just bought their way in.

I for one chose the SE Asia AA when I could have bought an AAA or Pro team because I wanted to make that "journey" up the ranks, have some history battling through the playoffs etc etc with my personnel and learn the game as a team.

We won the AA championship that first season and moved up to AAA.
We've gone 16-0 in AAA and averaged 62 points for and 6 against.

Aside from a few match ups, the league has been less than challenging.

We happen to be in a conference that also has 2 other super star teams that could on any given day beat us. 15-1 Ho Chi Mean and 14-2 Manila(2 losses against the 16-0 and 15-1 team)

These 3 teams could give the current pro teams a run for their money THIS season if we were in the same division. I'm not even including the quality teams on the Alpha side...

But since only 1 team from each conference can move up... no matter what... A lot of stellar teams will be forced to dick around in AAA for 3+ seasons just to move up to a division where they could be contenders from day 1.

Why?

Because some folks were able to buy their way in and some folks have to earn their way in?

Word on the street is that they are going to be re-organizing the South American and Southeast Asian brackets and adding an African bracket.

If SE Asia is to be restructured/balanced, NOW is the time to do it.


All we are after is competitive leagues that are fun and challenging and interesting. Forcing stud teams to wait 3+ seasons while lesser teams stick around and get blown out is retarded.

We are tired of blowing out other teams and want competition, some of you however, seem to want to keep the less competitive teams around because they are not a threat to you and you can pad your stats w/ easy wins and have a better chance at winning a championship.

You need to grow a pair because we're coming to get ya.


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Well said Sulfa!

No to "BLOWOUTS"

Yes to "OMFG, I coulda won that game if I did this..." or "OH MAN! I can't believe we won like that!"
 
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Originally posted by flintlock.leroux
i may be drunk right now (fact: i am), but fuck this thread. this game is designed to even itself out. over time. so shut the hell up, immediately.

Additionally, if being in the Pro league doesn't mean shit to you, you wouldn't care enough to make this thread. OH I WANT TOUGHER COMPETITION, ETC. no, shut up. stop lying and die. bye.


If titles meant anything to us, we would have moved to USA. We really do want to be in a league where its more balanced, and we dont already know the outcome before the game is played. Why is that hard to understand? This wasnt a "OMG WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE IN PRO RIGHT NOW! GIMME GIMME!" If it isnt mutually helpful to both teams, or if all the teams want to stick it out in pro's I totally understand.

It will all work it self out in time. I didnt see the harm in trying to speed up the process.
 
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