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ChicagoBlitz
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Kinda sucks for us in Asia. Nothing in the rules against it. Still doesn't seem right for us to fight all season long only to have a team with players of higher level from USA bring down all their ringers.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=457
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nutrumpet
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Actually not, most of those players were signed as FA during the season if you do research. A few of the players are coaches down there so, we sent them down there to bond more with the Asia players.

The players can choose where they play and if the players want to play with their coaches in the playoffs, there's nothing wrong with that. They've worked just as hard as you, plus most of the players boosted for the last few games, so what may look bad is really quite normal, as they are boosted for the playoffs.

Don't worry friend, there's no foul play involved here. We consider Perrinton and Columbus one large community united around holloway, who is a fantastic owner. I'm sorry that you are upset, but we just want to add to the great competition in Southeast Asia, not detract from the experience. Believe me, if anything, we want to be part of the South East Asian League Community just as much as you do. Ultimately, I'm sincerely sorry that you are upset by this.
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ChicagoBlitz
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Originally posted by nutrumpet
Actually not, most of those players were signed as FA during the season if do research. A few of the players are coaches down there so, we sent them down there to bond more with the Asia players, as we are out of the playoff race.

The players can choose where they play and if the players want to play with their coaches in the playoffs, there's nothing wrong with that. They've worked just as hard as you, plus most of the players boosted for the last few games, so what may look bad is really quite normal, as they are boosted for the playoffs.

Don't worry friend, there's no foul play involved here. We consider Perrinton and Columbus one large community united around holloway, who is a fantastic owner. I'm sorry that you are upset, but we just want to add to the great competition in Southeast Asia, not detract from the experience. Believe me, if anything, we want to be part of the South East Asian League Community just as much as you do. Ultimately, I'm sincerely sorry that you are upset by this.


There isn't anything illegal about what was done. The last place these players played was on the PRO team. It doesn't matter if they were cut, or traded. The result is the same. I still don't think its right. Teams should not be allowed to bring in ringers. It upsets the competative balance. We do not own a team in usa pro, so we do not have the ability to bring in higher level players for play-offs. This isn't illegal. But it should be.

 
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I don't think you understand what I'm saying. We have not brought many players from USA pro at all, most of them have been free agents that want to join a competitive team and the gaming community we have created. Trust me when I tell you we want to play fair, and that's what we are doing. No gutting or collusion has occurred here friend.
 
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MR.Chicago,

I would like to start out by saying I have moved 3 players down to Perrinton. You can check the game logs to see. I wonder if this is your way trying to get back at me about the "HOMEWORK thing.

I could have brought down all of our high level players. It would have been well within the rules. But it wouldn't have been fair to the players on my team. All I can say is look at the GAME LOGS we did send some down to Perrinton. This was done to offer Equal PT for others. I am not sure replacing our level 10 OT with our Level 12 OT is as bad as you are making this out to be.

I have made good trades and signed a few good FA over the weekend. But again check the game logs.
 
ChicagoBlitz
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Originally posted by nutrumpet
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. We have not brought many players from USA pro at all, most of them have been free agents that want to join a competitive team and the gaming community we have created. Trust me when I tell you we want to play fair, and that's what we are doing. No gutting or collusion has occurred here friend.


Jay Childress lvl 17 tackle
Severus Snape lvl 12 Fullback
Fred Joles lvl 16 DT
lil Ike Bigbutts lvl 12 DT
Kenneth Mccormicj lvl 16 DE
Mark Biehl lvl 17 LB
Steve Clements lvl 17 HB
Ray Pinney lvl 12 G
Rusty Hicks lvl 9 WR
Daryll Woodsmack lvl 11 LB
Josh Fant lvl 12 CB


ALL OF THESE PLAYERS LAST PLAYED FOR COLUMBUS BUCKS

Dont ask me to do research if you dont know where your own players came from.
 
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Originally posted by ChicagoBlitz
Originally posted by nutrumpet

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. We have not brought many players from USA pro at all, most of them have been free agents that want to join a competitive team and the gaming community we have created. Trust me when I tell you we want to play fair, and that's what we are doing. No gutting or collusion has occurred here friend.


Jay Childress lvl 17 tackle
Severus Snape lvl 12 Fullback
Fred Joles lvl 16 DT
lil Ike Bigbutts lvl 12 DT
Kenneth Mccormicj lvl 16 DE
Mark Biehl lvl 17 LB
Steve Clements lvl 17 HB
Ray Pinney lvl 12 G
Rusty Hicks lvl 9 WR
Daryll Woodsmack lvl 11 LB
Josh Fant lvl 12 CB


ALL OF THESE PLAYERS LAST PLAYED FOR COLUMBUS BUCKS

Dont ask me to do research if you dont know where your own players came from.


Why do I have a feeling those players will be playing on the Bucks again when next season starts?


Assuming this is true of course. :-P
 
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Some may, some may not. We ask the players where they want to play and adjust accordingly. Our management makes sure everyone is happy before making a decision. Really, it's the best way to do things, that way people can play with their friends and get plenty of PT.
 
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It all depends on what was traded for these players. If there were equal level players sent back, and it was just a roster reshuffling then no big deal.
 
purehatred
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Originally posted by McGrai37
It all depends on what was traded for these players. If there were equal level players sent back, and it was just a roster reshuffling then no big deal.


Or were all those players released and then just signed with Perrington?
 
ChicagoBlitz
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=247618

Judge for yourselves.
 
ChicagoBlitz
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This wasnt my post I cut and pasted it here. I havent called them any names

See, thats your problem asshole. You think you are talking to kids. You think people will fall hook, line and sinker for your lies.

You honestly think we'd buy your bullshit about how the players coming from Perrinton were mutually beneficial to the Colombus team?? Its a bunch of low level scrubs and inactive players. And what you got in return was a bunch of high level studs.

Take a look for yourself... these are players that are now on your Colombus team that were previously on Perrinton:


(SS) Safe T. Dance Level 9 (Third String)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=74314

(CB) BK Broiler Level 11 (Third String)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=109070

(CB) Chosen Juan Level 7 (Inactive 4th string)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=138028

(LB) Pope Benedict Level 12 (2nd string MLB)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=177940

(LB) Joaquin Bordado Level 9 (2nd string ROLB)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=103604

(LB) Frank Little Level 7 (Bounces back and forth between Perrinton and Columbus as they see fit - Not on depth chart)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=158601

(LB) Jamie Lill Level 6 (Not even on depth chart - Piece of shit player unloaded from Perrinton to make room for a real LB)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=275596


(WR) Nate Tiller Level 7
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=336439

(WR) Ted Cobb Level 6
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=319731

(OT) Peter Griffen Level 9
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=80855

(OG) Bernie McBrick Level 6
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=191176

(QB) Phillip Mulhall Level 4
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=146291



Here is what the Perrinton Panthers got in return for the above mentioned scrubs:

(HB) Steve Clements Level 17 (Was getting owned in the Pro's so they bring him in to AAA)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=30528

(OT) Jay Childers Level 17
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=27885

(CB) Josh Fant Level 12
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=167650

(LB) Mark Biehl Level 17
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=27247

(DE) Kenneth McCormick Level 16
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=41963

(DT) Fred Jones Level 16
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=37809

(DT) Ike Bigbutts Level Level 12
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=166848






You are a liar and what you did was wrong. Spin it any way want.



According to Sulfadias who did the research here are the trades that were made. I did not look into the fairness of the trades, only the players who were added to a AAA Asia team
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purehatred
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Hmmmmm....I can see why you're upset and I agree that it seems like he took players off a struggling team in order to build towards a playoff run in a lesser league, but, if those guys were exchanged through trade, I think it's hard to say that it's collusion or farming.
Last edited May 19, 2008 16:07:08
 
ChicagoBlitz
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Originally posted by purehatred
Hmmmmm....I can see why you're upset and I agree that it seems like he took players off a struggling team in order to build towards a playoff run in a lesser league, but, if thpse guys were exchanged through trade, I think it's hard to say that it's collusion or farming.


He didnt do anything thats against the rules. It just sucks for him to be able to say "Well, our USA teams blows. Time to kick the crap out of those suckers in Asia AAA. Then just move them up next year and try our luck in USA again."

 
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Originally posted by ChicagoBlitz
He didnt do anything thats against the rules. It just sucks for him to be able to say "Well, our USA teams blows. Time to kick the crap out of those suckers in Asia AAA. Then just move them up next year and try our luck in USA again."



If it makes you feel any better, they'll never be a good team here.
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