Warrior General Games

Originally posted by jared


especially since they are legally viable for what is in there, hence the no porn rule being GLB wide, and stuff like that

#1 I think you meant liable.
#2 Look up "safe harbor". GLB is in no way responsible for any content in a private forum.

Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by rusher


Paying 25 FP for a forum I think constitutes "owning" it.

No it doesn't.

It is renting server space.

So your going to try and say that 1 PF even slightly costs GLB anything?

Also Swag, go look up that word in the dictionary, you don't lose your PF after your term is finished.

Originally posted by jared

let me help you with something, forum bans are a PUNISHMENT, why should you get to post in any forum if your being punished for something you did ON THE FORUMS? I am really having trouble understanding why you guys dont get that. not being able to post in PF's you don't own and team forums is part of the PUNISHMENT



If the aim was to drive customers away from GLB, then certainly feel free to punish people this way. But its petty and stupid, and if anything will just drive more and more people away from the game.

Originally posted by dmfa41
Originally posted by rusher

My suggestion is file an item dispute in PayPal, chances are there won't be a response and you will get your $$$ back.

That seems very disingenuous

It "seems very disingenuous" to sell somebody usage of a private forum and then deny them usage of it, as was the case when private forums were initially implemented (perma-forum-banned users couldn't even post in the forums they bought).

It "seems very disingenuous" to sell somebody usage of a private forum and then after the fact tell them who can and cannot post in it because a rule that is not in effect in "your forum" was violated in "their forum" by the person in question.

It "seems very disingenuous" to ban people from a chat room their flex points in part paid for who never even got to use it based on what they said six months prior to the chat's implementation.

Originally posted by dmfa41
Originally posted by Terms of Use

http://goallineblitz.com/tos.html
You agree that all information on the GoalLineBlitz.com website is owned by GoalLineBlitz.com and may be used or modified in any way, within the confines of the Privacy Policy posted on this Web site. This information includes, but is not limited to, all players and player names, teams and team names, logos, avatars, and text posted via the forum and private messages.


I gotta say its a pretty weak argument you make when your best effort is to cut and paste from the TOS.

Originally posted by Krunchy




If the aim was to drive customers away from GLB, then certainly feel free to punish people this way. But its petty and stupid, and if anything will just drive more and more people away from the game.


Nobody gets permabanned for their first offense. Its "petty and stupid" to keep pushing buttons if one isn't in the position to control the outcome.

Originally posted by rusher

So your going to try and say that 1 PF even slightly costs GLB anything?

So negligible costs invalidates anything?

Well in that case, the cost of a PF is pretty negligible, so we can rule out people having to pay for it.

Originally posted by WearyWarrior
Shouldn't perma-banned players be able to post in the private forums? If we invite them then clearly we are welcoming them in. And its not that tough to remove them if they do decide to make trouble. All im asking is to be able to moderate the forum that i paid for. And in anycase they have access to their team forums still, so its not like they cant post at all anymore.

+1

Great idea

Originally posted by Krunchy


Originally posted by jared


let me help you with something, forum bans are a PUNISHMENT, why should you get to post in any forum if your being punished for something you did ON THE FORUMS? I am really having trouble understanding why you guys dont get that. not being able to post in PF's you don't own and team forums is part of the PUNISHMENT



If the aim was to drive customers away from GLB, then certainly feel free to punish people this way. But its petty and stupid, and if anything will just drive more and more people away from the game.

whats petty and stupid, is the people that have to go out of thier way to make an ass out of themselves, and push the limitations of the rules that are given to them, I am a 2nd generation military kid, everyone needs discipline, and how do you do that? by punishment. and it will only push away the customers that feel they have to try as hard as they can be to be an internet bad boy, which is pretty fuckin lame.

Originally posted by jared


whats petty and stupid, is the people that have to go out of thier way to make an ass out of themselves, and push the limitations of the rules that are given to them, I am a 2nd generation military kid, everyone needs discipline, and how do you do that? buy punishment. and it will only push away the customers that feel they have to try as hard as they can be to be an internet bad boy, which is pretty fuckin lame.


As a second generation baby killer, does it get any easier?

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Originally posted by SwagOnLock

Originally posted by rusher


Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader



You don't "own" the private forum--Goal Line Blitz does. Goal Line Blitz, in turn, gives you certain rights to, within reason, control what goes on within that forum. Goal Line Blitz has decided that they still have the right to limit who may and who may not post within your forum.

Paying 25 FP for a forum I think constitutes "owning" it.

Lease.

Exactly.

You both need to grab a brain and be open when talking in this forum. CP'd from Wiki on "Lease"

Under normal circumstances, owners of property are at liberty to do what they want with their property, including dealing with it or handing over possession of the property to a tenant for a limited period of time. However, if an owner has surrendered possession to another (ie the tenant) then any interference with the quiet enjoyment of the property by the tenant in lawful possession is itself unlawful.

So now your whole argument is worthless.

Originally posted by oldskool
It "seems very disingenuous" to sell somebody usage of a private forum and then after the fact tell them who can and cannot post in it because a rule that is not in effect in "your forum" was violated in "their forum" by the person in question.

the forum TOS applies to all forums

Originally posted by oldskool
Originally posted by dmfa41

Originally posted by rusher


My suggestion is file an item dispute in PayPal, chances are there won't be a response and you will get your $$$ back.

That seems very disingenuous

It "seems very disingenuous" to sell somebody usage of a private forum and then deny them usage of it, as was the case when private forums were initially implemented (perma-forum-banned users couldn't even post in the forums they bought).

It "seems very disingenuous" to sell somebody usage of a private forum and then after the fact tell them who can and cannot post in it because a rule that is not in effect in "your forum" was violated in "their forum" by the person in question.

It "seems very disingenuous" to ban people from a chat room their flex points in part paid for who never even got to use it based on what they said six months prior to the chat's implementation.



Cutting to the chase: *IF* the handful of folks who are currently permabanned were returned the flex they paid for their private forum AND language were put in place going forward for all that purchase private forums that were they to become banned that they would NOT have access to their newly purchased forum, how would you view things at that point?