Warrior General Games

Well I'm building a HB, he is Elusive, and I"m curious if Vision is needed. You guys say yes, but yet flames HB,

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=43369

say no, his other one

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=60043

Both have like 20 Vision.

I think some vision is important but I've heard that too much vision can be a bad thing.

Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by harshmellow

Originally posted by Viscount


Originally posted by harshmellow



Our HB just boosted and dumped all his points into vision (up to 40), and in today's scrimmage he was averaging 16 yards/carry.

It could just have been because your team was better than them. Nearly all his big runs were on ppitches, your O-Line had 70 total pancakes and even your FB had 12.4 yards/carry.

That's definitely possible, but he was only getting about 10 ypc last year with almost exactly the same team in the place.


Link? Because I don't see any HB on ANY of your teams that averaged anything close to 10 YPC - this year or last.


We played a lot of scrimmage games against fairly evenly matched teams (instead of being outleveled by 10 levels as a rebuilding team in USA A) after the regular season ended, I was referring to that.

Originally posted by harshmellow
Originally posted by Bukowski

Originally posted by harshmellow


Originally posted by Viscount



Originally posted by harshmellow




Our HB just boosted and dumped all his points into vision (up to 40), and in today's scrimmage he was averaging 16 yards/carry.

It could just have been because your team was better than them. Nearly all his big runs were on ppitches, your O-Line had 70 total pancakes and even your FB had 12.4 yards/carry.

That's definitely possible, but he was only getting about 10 ypc last year with almost exactly the same team in the place.


Link? Because I don't see any HB on ANY of your teams that averaged anything close to 10 YPC - this year or last.


We played a lot of scrimmage games against fairly evenly matched teams (instead of being outleveled by 10 levels as a rebuilding team in USA A) after the regular season ended, I was referring to that.

What? No, you said your RB averaged 10 YPC..

But now, you're saying what you meant was that he averaged that in a couple of scrimmage games?

Why didn't you just say that?

Which player are you even talking about? Because the starting RB for your team, didn't look like he averaged over 10 YPC in any kind of games last year, scrimmage games or not.

Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by harshmellow

Originally posted by Bukowski


Originally posted by harshmellow



Originally posted by Viscount




Originally posted by harshmellow



Our HB just boosted and dumped all his points into vision (up to 40), and in today's scrimmage he was averaging 16 yards/carry.

It could just have been because your team was better than them. Nearly all his big runs were on ppitches, your O-Line had 70 total pancakes and even your FB had 12.4 yards/carry.

That's definitely possible, but he was only getting about 10 ypc last year with almost exactly the same team in the place.


Link? Because I don't see any HB on ANY of your teams that averaged anything close to 10 YPC - this year or last.


We played a lot of scrimmage games against fairly evenly matched teams (instead of being outleveled by 10 levels as a rebuilding team in USA A) after the regular season ended, I was referring to that.

What? No, you said your RB averaged 10 YPC..

But now, you're saying what you meant was that he averaged that in a couple of scrimmage games?

Why didn't you just say that?

Which player are you even talking about? Because the starting RB for your team, didn't look like he averaged over 10 YPC in any kind of games last year, scrimmage games or not.


You're right, I went back and looked at the scrimmage and friendlies at the end of last season and Kaelin Gales didn't average as many ypc as I said. I still don't see what that has to do with him averaging significantly more so far this season though, now that he pumped vision.

i can find LOTS of examples where vision has allowed my OLB to run around gaurds/tackles/fullbacks/tightends to make the tackle.

Originally posted by harshmellow

You're right, I went back and looked at the scrimmage and friendlies at the end of last season and Kaelin Gales didn't average as many ypc as I said. I still don't see what that has to do with him averaging significantly more so far this season though, now that he pumped vision.

Looking at your next opponents, I reckon he'll have a 3.2 ypc average.

Originally posted by Viscount
Originally posted by harshmellow


You're right, I went back and looked at the scrimmage and friendlies at the end of last season and Kaelin Gales didn't average as many ypc as I said. I still don't see what that has to do with him averaging significantly more so far this season though, now that he pumped vision.

Looking at your next opponents, I reckon he'll have a 3.2 ypc average.

Which has exactly what to do with the topic of vision?

Originally posted by harshmellow
Originally posted by Viscount

Originally posted by harshmellow



You're right, I went back and looked at the scrimmage and friendlies at the end of last season and Kaelin Gales didn't average as many ypc as I said. I still don't see what that has to do with him averaging significantly more so far this season though, now that he pumped vision.

Looking at your next opponents, I reckon he'll have a 3.2 ypc average.

Which has exactly what to do with the topic of vision?

Because despite him having 'pumped' vision, I still think he'll get shut down.

Originally posted by harshmellow
Originally posted by Bukowski

Originally posted by harshmellow


Originally posted by Bukowski



Originally posted by harshmellow




Originally posted by Viscount





Originally posted by harshmellow




Our HB just boosted and dumped all his points into vision (up to 40), and in today's scrimmage he was averaging 16 yards/carry.

It could just have been because your team was better than them. Nearly all his big runs were on ppitches, your O-Line had 70 total pancakes and even your FB had 12.4 yards/carry.

That's definitely possible, but he was only getting about 10 ypc last year with almost exactly the same team in the place.


Link? Because I don't see any HB on ANY of your teams that averaged anything close to 10 YPC - this year or last.


We played a lot of scrimmage games against fairly evenly matched teams (instead of being outleveled by 10 levels as a rebuilding team in USA A) after the regular season ended, I was referring to that.

What? No, you said your RB averaged 10 YPC..

But now, you're saying what you meant was that he averaged that in a couple of scrimmage games?

Why didn't you just say that?

Which player are you even talking about? Because the starting RB for your team, didn't look like he averaged over 10 YPC in any kind of games last year, scrimmage games or not.


You're right, I went back and looked at the scrimmage and friendlies at the end of last season and Kaelin Gales didn't average as many ypc as I said. I still don't see what that has to do with him averaging significantly more so far this season though, now that he pumped vision.

Oh.. You were telling us stories?

Originally posted by Bukowski


Oh.. You were telling us stories?

Not intentionally, I have had no idea why you're so personally offended by a mistake I made. This is supposed to be a topic about vision's effectiveness, all you're doing so far by correcting me is proving my point even moreso.

Originally posted by harshmellow
Originally posted by Bukowski



Oh.. You were telling us stories?

Not intentionally, I have had no idea why you're so personally offended by a mistake I made. This is supposed to be a topic about vision's effectiveness, all you're doing so far by correcting me is proving my point even moreso.



Back to the topic. Whilst the HB on your team only had 2.4 Avg, I was watching his replays and he actually looked pretty good. He was fast and very direct when he hit the holes. Do you know if he runs on combo or elusive?

Originally posted by harshmellow
Originally posted by Bukowski



Oh.. You were telling us stories?

Not intentionally, I have had no idea why you're so personally offended by a mistake I made. This is supposed to be a topic about vision's effectiveness, all you're doing so far by correcting me is proving my point even moreso.



I was just joking with you dude.. Nothing personal.

Originally posted by Viscount
Originally posted by harshmellow

Originally posted by Bukowski




Oh.. You were telling us stories?

Not intentionally, I have had no idea why you're so personally offended by a mistake I made. This is supposed to be a topic about vision's effectiveness, all you're doing so far by correcting me is proving my point even moreso.



Back to the topic. Whilst the HB on your team only had 2.4 Avg, I was watching his replays and he actually looked pretty good. He was fast and very direct when he hit the holes. Do you know if he runs on combo or elusive?

He was running on elusive, the biggest problem was that we just didn't get the blocking we needed to open up holes.