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I somehow missed this whole conversation. How does promotion in the pro leagues work now? For the four Champions League spots that open up, are they coming from winners of the different pro leagues, or do they all come from Pro 1 (or some combination thereof?). Does it work like English soccer where you have to promote from AA2 -> AA1 ->AAA2 ->AAA1->Pro->Champions? And if so, how does demotion work? 4 teams should demote from Champions, but do they all go to Pro1, or do they spread out?

AA->AAA->Pro->Champion, the league #'s have nothing to do with a ranking

All non playoff Champion league will demote to Pro. Final four Pro 1 teams will promote to Champion League. Non playoff Pro demote to AAA. Conference Champions in AAA and AA promote to tier above.

If I understand correctly, that is quite a trek for teams trying to crack the nut. So if you start S105 and get to maturity at what, AA? You win aa, you get to AAA. You have to win again to get to Pro. Then you have to win again at Pro. Then finally, at long last make it to CL? So that means it took half your peak just to get to the Dance if you have zero slip-ups? Best case scenario leaves what, 4 peak seasons potentially at CL???

That is decidedly worse than before. So it is basically equates to; if you made CC in the inaugural season 104/105, you are at a HUGE advantage basically henceforth?!

Considering 16 teams with an 8/8 exchange might be better so as to make things open up a bit. In my earlier scenario, the advance hinged on winning it all every step of the way. Not a single off game allowed or it costs an entire extra season?

By no means am I promoting mediocrity. However, a reasonable chance to sniff the roses for newly matured teams seems like a good thing for the game as a whole. (like a 2 season process at most if all goes well as opposed to 4?) Doing so means we all benefit from a game healthy with participation from as many players as possible.

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I didn't pay attention but you may get sorted higher than AA depending on results but even assuming you start there and no slip ups the current set up would require you to make conf championship s1 and s2 of plateau and final four s3 giving you 4 seasons of plateau, 5 with decline season which was the same as before or even better since most teams did not make the WL until 2nd season of plateau.

I'm guessing it will work itself out as teams reset etc and won't take as long though anyway

Cool, thanks so much Ryan.

Interestign thoguhts with the promotion speed vs seasons in Champions. If you advanced every opportunity, as you say, you'd have 4-5 seasons of Champions, similar to WL seasons before. But compared to a *potential* 7-8 seasons in Champions, that's a big gap, and strongly encourages teams to have a farm team ready to dump players onto the Flagship team after 0-1 seasons of decline.

Which is fine, we've all done farm systems forever, there's just a bigger benefit for doing it in this setup.

It also seems like AA could easily not exist and just slightly expand pro and AAA, but not a big deal.

Achieving ideal coming up, now takes a 3/3 scenario, whereas before it was 1/1. Oh well, it is what it is.
Unfortunately nex, your 7/8 is impossible bro. As I stated and Ryan reiterated, 4-5 peak depending on decline, is the Cherry as it were.

Under the new GLB, Playoffs in the upper leagues are even more critical in the climb. Once the maturity levels are reached, no margin for error at all. Only exception is if you succeed, perhaps get bumped a league, then you'd trim 1 season off in the climb.

Originally posted by King of Bling
By no means am I promoting mediocrity. However, a reasonable chance to sniff the roses for newly matured teams seems like a good thing for the game as a whole. (like a 2 season process at most if all goes well as opposed to 4?) Doing so means we all benefit from a game healthy with participation from as many players as possible.


Dude we literally tried to get people to get on board with this. It's too late now. It was met with a ton of pushback.

Originally posted by Pwned
Dude we literally tried to get people to get on board with this. It's too late now. It was met with a ton of pushback.



50% of people agreed. 50% of people didn't agree. It is what it is. I agree it's funny people hated the idea of a 24 team top tier then complain it's hard to get to WL.

Fwiw I do like that Bort did only 1 Pro league with 1 Champion league, which is "kinda" the 24 team tier split into 2 tiers. I really thought he was gonna go 1 WL + 2 Pro, which would have been worse.

One thing to note, is the "thinner" pyramid should means teams promoting to WL are "better" and "more ready" since the gap between Pro and WL will be approx 4x less than the gap was in the old system.

Just nothing Athens Odyssey was a d120 champ and got placed in AAA. So if you do well enough in minors, good chance you are placed in AAA with 2 hops from WL (which is fine imo, idk why everyone wants to "qq" about a ladder existing to make non-WL leagues not complete shit).

Idk why anyone cares. The same 3 ppl are just going to cycle farm teams at the WL level anyway and continue to win gold.

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
Idk why anyone cares. The same 3 ppl are just going to cycle farm teams at the WL level anyway and continue to win gold.

I mean it's only been 2 people since s90.

It'll be interesting to see it actually play out.

Many of the teams to bat start Rookie never make it to plateau.

Most of the teams that do make plateau are feeder teams that pass along dots.

I really don't think the plateau tier as a whole will grow very much. What we're seeing is probably all we'll get.

The Pro league might have to grow if it's the only gateway between champ and chump leagues.

That could also depend on the networks. Like TSW has 4 teams in Pro. That could realistically be 7 next season.

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
Idk why anyone cares. The same 3 ppl are just going to cycle farm teams at the WL level anyway and continue to win gold.

there are a few of us trying to get there, I like the idea of having to climb the latter to the next teir !

HOPEFULLY the top dawgs will guide us ....... I have one so watch out

It's essential to check the specific rules and regulations of the league you're interested in, as promotion and relegation systems can differ significantly between leagues and even https://fnaf-game.io within different seasons of the same league.