After reading quite a bit of everyone's unique opinions I get the feeling most ppl are against so many teams of the same Coordinators/Owners being in this League as that creates a monopoly where it is almost impossible to get them out as they can determine the outcome of games between them. I have seen this take place to many times whether it is seen in an obvious way or not so much. I know Wise made everyone sign something saying they wouldn't, but how much does that matter. So to take that all out of the game I propose that the same Coordinators/Owners can only maintain one team in such a League as this would take away the chance of network teams monopolizing this League, sort of speak. This will also give every group of Coordinators that are skilled the chance to compete with GLB's best, but not 2-3 different teams of each one to prove themselves which isn't fair to them....TBH. This would mean us dropping BIA to Pro and RC dropping two of his teams down to Pro for this to happen. However, the teams that come up can't have a Coordinator/Owner tied to a team that is already there. I know the Old Timers probably won't like this, but I think it's the best for the game moving forward and should make most happy. Any constructive opinions are appreciated as this is my opinion, even though, it is probably much different than John's, I think it is what is needed in a dying game
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WiSeIVIaN
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I'm not reading that. Stop being so bad at a forum mmorpg and learn to use paragaphs/bulletpoints/formatting like a civilized human...
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I'm not reading that. Stop being so bad at a forum mmorpg and learn to use paragaphs/bulletpoints/formatting like a civilized human...
cliffs: you just got fired from TSW
I'm not reading that. Stop being so bad at a forum mmorpg and learn to use paragaphs/bulletpoints/formatting like a civilized human...
cliffs: you just got fired from TSW
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Originally posted by PLAYMAKERS
cliffs: you just got fired from TSW
I understand. Sometimes people have to make tough decisions!
cliffs: you just got fired from TSW
I understand. Sometimes people have to make tough decisions!
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Originally posted by Mauler
After reading quite a bit of everyone's unique opinions I get the feeling most ppl are against so many teams of the same Coordinators/Owners being in this League as that creates a monopoly where it is almost impossible to get them out as they can determine the outcome of games between them. I have seen this take place to many times whether it is seen in an obvious way or not so much. I know Wise made everyone sign something saying they wouldn't, but how much does that matter. So to take that all out of the game I propose that the same Coordinators/Owners can only maintain one team in such a League as this would take away the chance of network teams monopolizing this League, sort of speak. This will also give every group of Coordinators that are skilled the chance to compete with GLB's best, but not 2-3 different teams of each one to prove themselves which isn't fair to them....TBH. This would mean us dropping BIA to Pro and RC dropping two of his teams down to Pro for this to happen. However, the teams that come up can't have a Coordinator/Owner tied to a team that is already there. I know the Old Timers probably won't like this, but I think it's the best for the game moving forward and should make most happy. Any constructive opinions are appreciated as this is my opinion, even though, it is probably much different than John's, I think it is what is needed in a dying game
I like this, but I think a 24 team league does the same thing pretty much but doesn't single out the users who have spent the most money and time on becoming what they now are.. dominant.
After reading quite a bit of everyone's unique opinions I get the feeling most ppl are against so many teams of the same Coordinators/Owners being in this League as that creates a monopoly where it is almost impossible to get them out as they can determine the outcome of games between them. I have seen this take place to many times whether it is seen in an obvious way or not so much. I know Wise made everyone sign something saying they wouldn't, but how much does that matter. So to take that all out of the game I propose that the same Coordinators/Owners can only maintain one team in such a League as this would take away the chance of network teams monopolizing this League, sort of speak. This will also give every group of Coordinators that are skilled the chance to compete with GLB's best, but not 2-3 different teams of each one to prove themselves which isn't fair to them....TBH. This would mean us dropping BIA to Pro and RC dropping two of his teams down to Pro for this to happen. However, the teams that come up can't have a Coordinator/Owner tied to a team that is already there. I know the Old Timers probably won't like this, but I think it's the best for the game moving forward and should make most happy. Any constructive opinions are appreciated as this is my opinion, even though, it is probably much different than John's, I think it is what is needed in a dying game
I like this, but I think a 24 team league does the same thing pretty much but doesn't single out the users who have spent the most money and time on becoming what they now are.. dominant.
Well as I would agree with you on some of this but I also disagree also. It would be hard to keep everyone happy and I don't think that only having an owner have only one team in the C/league or only be able to co-ordinate 1 team in the C/league is the answer.
So what happens if Swat is already in the C/league and wins out or stays in the league. Then BIA wins Pro Gold. They deserve to move up but what do we do. Does Mauler choose what team either stays or get promoted to C/league. Same will go for RC also and for Hood/Tomcic. What about the agents that get screwed because of this rule.
Also here is another thing about it and I will spell it out.
KoB is putting t team together for the soul purpose of competing in the Champion league. He hand picked the agents he wanted for each position even took special requests from the O/C and D/C as to certain positions they wanted certain dots.
You mauler and SteveMax are listed as the OC/DC.
I have no reason that the team will eventually make the Champion league but when they do are you going to be willing to drop one of your teams if and when KoB's team makes C/league.
This would not be fair to the agents KoB recruited or any agents on any team of yours if this scenario was to happen.
If this was the case, I would bet a lot of the agents KoB recruited might have 2nd thoughts about building for his team, myself included.
It is a sticky situation, so 2 of rc's teams can't be in the c/league along with some of the teams of yours. We get different teams and no offense to any coordinators would be up to the task competing in the league. I know I wouldn't be able to I suck as a co-ordinator.
There was talk about not even having a C/league but if that happened then what will most likely happen is what happened this season.
Open to options!!!!!
So what happens if Swat is already in the C/league and wins out or stays in the league. Then BIA wins Pro Gold. They deserve to move up but what do we do. Does Mauler choose what team either stays or get promoted to C/league. Same will go for RC also and for Hood/Tomcic. What about the agents that get screwed because of this rule.
Also here is another thing about it and I will spell it out.
KoB is putting t team together for the soul purpose of competing in the Champion league. He hand picked the agents he wanted for each position even took special requests from the O/C and D/C as to certain positions they wanted certain dots.
You mauler and SteveMax are listed as the OC/DC.
I have no reason that the team will eventually make the Champion league but when they do are you going to be willing to drop one of your teams if and when KoB's team makes C/league.
This would not be fair to the agents KoB recruited or any agents on any team of yours if this scenario was to happen.
If this was the case, I would bet a lot of the agents KoB recruited might have 2nd thoughts about building for his team, myself included.
It is a sticky situation, so 2 of rc's teams can't be in the c/league along with some of the teams of yours. We get different teams and no offense to any coordinators would be up to the task competing in the league. I know I wouldn't be able to I suck as a co-ordinator.
There was talk about not even having a C/league but if that happened then what will most likely happen is what happened this season.
Open to options!!!!!
with all the multi's out there tracking coordinator jobs to accounts won't really solve anything
does someone have to be listed as a coordinator? because they can run everything without the title
too much hassle to try to enforce tbh
does someone have to be listed as a coordinator? because they can run everything without the title
too much hassle to try to enforce tbh
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In a game with like 7 active coordinators, good luck. If you remove guys like zz man who graciously DC a ton of different teams, would that help them compete more?
I agree with the sentiment as the only reason I have multiple teams is because SWAT played BIA for three finals in a row s83-s85, but as said above implementation is impossible so the only other choice is to get better and compete. In theory having one team being your sole focus should be easier to unseat the guys running 3/4 teams, anyway.
I agree with the sentiment as the only reason I have multiple teams is because SWAT played BIA for three finals in a row s83-s85, but as said above implementation is impossible so the only other choice is to get better and compete. In theory having one team being your sole focus should be easier to unseat the guys running 3/4 teams, anyway.
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BTW the GG thread is right here https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5332586&page=37#50137334
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I just begrudgingly read the OP only to find out playmakers lied to me... 
Masked Singer Mauler (MSM) the issues with your suggestion are as follows.
1. Post formatting, I can't stress this one enough.
2. Completely unenforcable
3. Actually very bad for the game. There are less than 10 OC's and less than 10 DC's in GLB that are active and competent.
4. This feels like an over-reaction to RC being better. He isn't doing anything other's couldn't mimic/learn from. The suggestion "if you can't beat them, take away their teams" is very weak.
5. Less players less teams less money is bad for bort and bad for the games servers staying up.
End of the day, GLB needs people to own and coordinate multiple teams while owning tons of dots. That's the way it's always been, and without it the game has a very quick and uncompetitive death.
Though honestly, the issue you are trying to "solve" would have been solved by having 24 (not 12) teams in the top league, which RC suggested and half of voters agreed with in my lolpoll, giving more owners a chance to learn from and compete with the top teams.
Masked Singer Mauler (MSM) the issues with your suggestion are as follows.
1. Post formatting, I can't stress this one enough.
2. Completely unenforcable
3. Actually very bad for the game. There are less than 10 OC's and less than 10 DC's in GLB that are active and competent.
4. This feels like an over-reaction to RC being better. He isn't doing anything other's couldn't mimic/learn from. The suggestion "if you can't beat them, take away their teams" is very weak.
5. Less players less teams less money is bad for bort and bad for the games servers staying up.
End of the day, GLB needs people to own and coordinate multiple teams while owning tons of dots. That's the way it's always been, and without it the game has a very quick and uncompetitive death.
Though honestly, the issue you are trying to "solve" would have been solved by having 24 (not 12) teams in the top league, which RC suggested and half of voters agreed with in my lolpoll, giving more owners a chance to learn from and compete with the top teams.
Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I just begrudgingly read the OP only to find out playmakers lied to me...
Masked Singer Mauler (MSM) the issues with your suggestion are as follows.
1. Post formatting, I can't stress this one enough.
2. Completely unenforcable
3. Actually very bad for the game. There are less than 10 OC's and less than 10 DC's in GLB that are active and competent.
4. This feels like an over-reaction to RC being better. He isn't doing anything other's couldn't mimic/learn from. The suggestion "if you can't beat them, take away their teams" is very weak.
5. Less players less teams less money is bad for bort and bad for the games servers staying up.
End of the day, GLB needs people to own and coordinate multiple teams while owning tons of dots. That's the way it's always been, and without it the game has a very quick and uncompetitive death.
Though honestly, the issue you are trying to "solve" would have been solved by having 24 (not 12) teams in the top league, which RC suggested and half of voters agreed with in my lolpoll, giving more owners a chance to learn from and compete with the top teams.
There are 2 ways to look at this
Putting the top 12 teams in WL/CL segregates them from the others in their own league so the other teams are competing to win National Pro
Putting the top 24 in a league means instead of competing against teams more their level to win National Pro those teams are going against Ryan with little liklihood of winning, but they are getting experience against those teams to learn on how to improve
so which is better - having a chance to win or learning against Ryan but without much chance to win?
I just begrudgingly read the OP only to find out playmakers lied to me...
Masked Singer Mauler (MSM) the issues with your suggestion are as follows.
1. Post formatting, I can't stress this one enough.
2. Completely unenforcable
3. Actually very bad for the game. There are less than 10 OC's and less than 10 DC's in GLB that are active and competent.
4. This feels like an over-reaction to RC being better. He isn't doing anything other's couldn't mimic/learn from. The suggestion "if you can't beat them, take away their teams" is very weak.
5. Less players less teams less money is bad for bort and bad for the games servers staying up.
End of the day, GLB needs people to own and coordinate multiple teams while owning tons of dots. That's the way it's always been, and without it the game has a very quick and uncompetitive death.
Though honestly, the issue you are trying to "solve" would have been solved by having 24 (not 12) teams in the top league, which RC suggested and half of voters agreed with in my lolpoll, giving more owners a chance to learn from and compete with the top teams.
There are 2 ways to look at this
Putting the top 12 teams in WL/CL segregates them from the others in their own league so the other teams are competing to win National Pro
Putting the top 24 in a league means instead of competing against teams more their level to win National Pro those teams are going against Ryan with little liklihood of winning, but they are getting experience against those teams to learn on how to improve
so which is better - having a chance to win or learning against Ryan but without much chance to win?
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My 3Cents. If peeps are not cool with those who are great at this game and kick our asses at the top of the mountain welp sorry not sorry. Now all ryans teams can be on one side of world bracket, all maulers teams can be on the other then there is the rest of us( not me) I suck. But for arguments sake whatever is done wont make to much of a difference.
I am old school and the trophy for all generation is killing us all. Either earn your spot at the top or bounce. If RC/Mauler/Hood whom ever is there then it is our goal to push them out, if we dont then try try again. I dont want to see this game be made so those who dont put time into it or just dont deserve to be there get a path that is easier just because you cant beat the champ.
Also the journey is key enjoy that before you try to change the top.
Good luck to the mob boses of GLB and until we can beat them they are the cream at the top
I am old school and the trophy for all generation is killing us all. Either earn your spot at the top or bounce. If RC/Mauler/Hood whom ever is there then it is our goal to push them out, if we dont then try try again. I dont want to see this game be made so those who dont put time into it or just dont deserve to be there get a path that is easier just because you cant beat the champ.
Also the journey is key enjoy that before you try to change the top.
Good luck to the mob boses of GLB and until we can beat them they are the cream at the top
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Red, only a few teams were wholly out of place in Pro this season, and that will be fixed with AAA promotions next season (bumps with initial bort sorting were hard to avoid)..
It is what it is since the poll didn't reach consensus so I'm sure nothing will change. But I stand my ground that a 24 team top tier is a better experience for all involved (from owners to coordinators to dots).
It is what it is since the poll didn't reach consensus so I'm sure nothing will change. But I stand my ground that a 24 team top tier is a better experience for all involved (from owners to coordinators to dots).
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Originally posted by RyanCane26
In a game with like 7 active coordinators, good luck. If you remove guys like zz man who graciously DC a ton of different teams, would that help them compete more?
I agree with the sentiment as the only reason I have multiple teams is because SWAT played BIA for three finals in a row s83-s85, but as said above implementation is impossible so the only other choice is to get better and compete. In theory having one team being your sole focus should be easier to unseat the guys running 3/4 teams, anyway.
zz will be out in the wilderness for next 5-6 months and will coordinate only his team.
In a game with like 7 active coordinators, good luck. If you remove guys like zz man who graciously DC a ton of different teams, would that help them compete more?
I agree with the sentiment as the only reason I have multiple teams is because SWAT played BIA for three finals in a row s83-s85, but as said above implementation is impossible so the only other choice is to get better and compete. In theory having one team being your sole focus should be easier to unseat the guys running 3/4 teams, anyway.
zz will be out in the wilderness for next 5-6 months and will coordinate only his team.
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