Warrior General Games

Poll Link: https://forms.gle/9tWWC8wAUsTHH4sX9

Hey guys. I'd like to share a poll with the userbase. As you know Bort's current plan is a 12tm champion league (same as former WL), but per discord he does seem open to changing if it's what the userbase wants.

Poll results will be shared with Bort. From there he may take action, he may decide to re-poll during the GLB interface, or he may do whatever he wants.


Question 1: How do we want our top "standard" league structured?

Bort's current plan is to re-create the WL (one 12tm league at the top, now called Champions league). RyanCane26 had the idea that this might not be best for the game.

Why consider 24tms instead of 12tms?
-Two league champs could still play each other on d40 to declare a world champ
-Many have had a ton of fun in the current top pro league structure (24 teams in the top tier) since it allows more inclusion and debates.
-Between AAA teams promoting, and another 6 seasons new-to-plateau dots being added, it should be stronger in s105-110 then it is today.
-WL becomes this elitist thing mostly only including 2-3 networks of teams. Why not let more teams/owners/coordinators/dots compete?


Question 2: Should we change the playoff structure across all leagues?

The current structure for each 12tm league is 8/12 make the playoffs (66%) and none of those teams get a decided playoff advantage. The issue with this is, many teams lock up their playoff spot early in the regular season and there's zero incentive to try for the #1 seed. All it takes is 1-2 "bad" teams in your conference and you are basically auto-playoffs and can coast the whole regular season with zero try-hards because it doesn't matter.

The proposed change to 6 playoff teams, gives tiered rewards for the regular season. This effectively makes the regular season matter more and be more fun.

Proposed system:
Top 2/12 = Receive Bye Week (effectively doubles playoff chances)
Next 4 (6/12) = Make Playoffs
Next 2 (8/12) = Safe from demotion
Last 4 = Demote

Poll Link: https://forms.gle/9tWWC8wAUsTHH4sX9

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And for those who have already voted, Poll Results: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1vQ2y3GBDHtuawIRqxeD-Nzig-XvXz2i0weyaBZQnBpw/viewanalytics

No to 24 tms. Guys, we already have teams in Pros which lose 255-0. 24 teams means sacrificing other leagues. Are we now handing out participation trophies?

And regarding playoffs keep it 8/12 but bump the 1st promos for the first playoff game from nachos to mini helmet. And if you lose the first game to the 4th seed despite having morale and attribute bump then you simply don't deserve to be a champion.

I haven't been back for long, but I always liked how it was so 8/12 teams and the normal Nachos for having the higher seed. Oh and a big No to 24 teams.

No to the 24 tms, all this will do is the rc's, mauler, hood/tomcic and a couple others will dominate those leagues each season.
Do the Champion league where you earn the spot there and if not it will make it more interesting in the pros as then other teams won't have to compete season after season with the big boys for a trophy.

Kind of like the idea of the 6/12 playoff format but the 8/12 is fine also. 6/12 format would make the reg season more competitive as teams would have to put more to reach the playoff spots.

Originally posted by Tomcic
No to 24 tms. Guys, we already have teams in Pros which lose 255-0. 24 teams means sacrificing other leagues. Are we now handing out participation trophies?


The 255-0 team is clearly a sorting snafu due to the post-dotpocalyptic transition, several AAA teams were better than the bottom Pro Teams. And in the next 6 seasons several high quality teams with hit plateau before any dots decline

Also just to be completely clear, adding an additional 1x12 top layer leagues, takes 12 teams away from all the leagues/tiers that currently exist so to say it will water down GLB to not add an additional tier, is incorrect (the addition of the original WL watered down pro leagues, not the other way around).

No part of you thinks the additional teams/users/discussion this season has been fun? Let us not pretend C'Town with its 8-5 record was some unstoppable force of dominance that was out of place in the current 2x pro leagues.

We never pretended to be a dominant force to begin with this season since working on improving both O and D simultaneously is a process that shall be looked from a game to game basis.

Yes, we take away 12 teams away but it will consolidate 2 Pro leagues into 1 and make 2 AA'S with AAA top teams competitive for future seasons.

1 CC (12 teams) - 4 demote
1 Pro (12 teams) - conf. Finalists promote, 4 demote
2 AA (24 Teams) - finalists promote (4) , 8 demote , minor finalists (Elite)can be placed here
2 AAA (12 TEAMS) - conf finalists promote,

Number off AAA varies based on new teams coming in.

And regarding playoffs. You win the no 1 seed, additional cash (15 Million $) and getting a 1st Round Promo Mini helmet instead of nachos. This way you benefit for the present playoff game (POs) and future (next seasons promos financed)

Originally posted by Tomcic

Yes, we take away 12 teams away but it will consolidate 2 Pro leagues into 1 and make 2 AA'S with AAA top teams competitive for future seasons.

1 CC (12 teams) - 4 demote
1 Pro (12 teams) - conf. Finalists promote, 4 demote
2 AA (24 Teams) - finalists promote (4) , 8 demote , minor finalists (Elite)can be placed here
2 AAA (12 TEAMS) - conf finalists promote,

Number off AAA varies based on new teams coming in.


I'm pretty sure Borts current plan is to add an additional Faux WL, but not to reduce from 2 pro leagues to 1. This would mean 36 Pro/Champion teams without intervention.

Originally posted by Bluesman
No to the 24 tms, all this will do is the rc's, mauler, hood/tomcic and a couple others will dominate those leagues each season.
Do the Champion league where you earn the spot there and if not it will make it more interesting in the pros as then other teams won't have to compete season after season with the big boys for a trophy.


Not to speak for anyone, but I'd imagine most in the current pro teams vastly prefer s104 to the leagues they were in B.D. I don't think anyone has the request to get better teams out of their league so they can win easier, as the prestige gained from winning against not the best teams, isn't that much anyhow?

Tom/Mauler'a ghost/red I do encourage you to vote in the actual poll link since those results are what will be shared with the dotball God.

I like the way pro is tiered and your larger championship with the two pro leagues sounds fun. So yea, I’d give it a yes.

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Tom/Mauler'a ghost/red I do encourage you to vote in the actual poll link since those results are what will be shared with the dotball God.

Currently only use John's yahoo account for GLB and you make it a google thing.....WTF.

I'd like to vote, but am not signing into a different site, no matter the reason or assurances.

Why not set up a vote on GLB Forum (here for instance) and have maximum participation?

FWIW, I'm for a top league (Call it World League as that was a great moniker coined on GLB) Use the same 8/12-league format. I like Tom's idea of rewarding top seed's in each conference, but no Mini; Rather a 10-15 million bonus is a nice incentive for the Reg Season winners.
WL 8/12 with 4 demotions
Pro 4/12 with 4 demotions
AAA-1 4/12 with 4 demotions
AAA-2 4/12 with 4 demotions
To determine who would make AAA1 and AAA2 at 160, mark the success of the 120-160 seasonal leagues with playoffs accordingly for placement. As more dots mature with the extended plateau, there should be a good number of teams to fill the 4 leagues mentioned above.
Just a thought?

Not a fan of either Don't like the poll. There's no option for "other"

Originally posted by Dr. E
I like the way pro is tiered and your larger championship with the two pro leagues sounds fun. So yea, I’d give it a yes.

Vote in poll, not in forum, thanks.

I doubt Bort will be cruising this thread adding up responses.